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griff
31-03-08, 08:54 PM
I have tried to PM fastco, but the site wont let me.

Is that because I'm not paid up or something else?

robert
31-03-08, 08:55 PM
Nope, he has been banned.

griff
31-03-08, 08:56 PM
Thanks Rob, Can I ask why or point me to the link?

I may have missed the post.

Thanks

dave
31-03-08, 08:59 PM
More info here:-
Any one help Dr.Dee send a message to the other side? (http://snaketorque.co.uk/index.php?topic=2319.0)

robert
31-03-08, 09:02 PM
Thanks Rob, Can I ask why or point me to the link?

I may have missed the post.

Thanks

Constant advertising despite being asked otherwise.

griff
31-03-08, 09:08 PM
Thanks Rob.

I was going to ask for a price list now the £ is strong against the $..not sure if I want to build the 383 I always said I would now the car is on the road etc..or buy one... or mix and match as their prices on the block work seems cheaper than the UK.

If anyone has any bad dealings please PM me as I would like to know as I don't know him or have dealt with him before.

Thanks

Clive
31-03-08, 09:15 PM
Thanks Rob.

I was going to ask for a price list now the £ is strong against the $..not sure if I want to build the 383 I always said I would now the car is on the road etc..or buy one... or mix and match as their prices on the block work seems cheaper than the UK.

If anyone has any bad dealings please PM me as I would like to know as I don't know him or have dealt with him before.

Thanks

Hi Griff,
I think he is going to be at Stoneleigh in May. Speak to him then.

griff
31-03-08, 09:19 PM
Thanks but cant make it due to work...thats why i wanted to Pm.

Cheers anyway. Think i missed all the post before this..

Sorry Rob didnt want to open the can..

Purple AK
31-03-08, 09:22 PM
Thanks but cant make it due to work...thats why i wanted to Pm.

Cheers anyway. Think i missed all the post before this..

Sorry Rob didnt want to open the can..
Just Google Fastco :rolleyes: I'm sure there will be a contact on his site.

griff
31-03-08, 09:25 PM
I have the site details, but going through the site always seems better.

As I said if anyone has any dealings with him please let me know, as I dont want to waste any cash..

Thanks

Purple AK
31-03-08, 09:31 PM
I have the site details, but going through the site always seems better.

As I said if anyone has any dealings with him please let me know, as I dont want to waste any cash..

Thanks
Link on post 4

Miket
31-03-08, 09:35 PM
Let's not resurrect the thread on here, it's just taken me 1/2 hour to read it on the dark side. ;) ;) :D :D :D

cren514
31-03-08, 09:36 PM
You can allways ask Paul427 on Snaketorque - the cobra replica forum and message board - Index (http://www.snaketorque.co.uk/)
he has had a 383 built by fastco just pm him and he will give you the lowdown do it before wen 2nd as he's on holiday from then

robert
31-03-08, 09:36 PM
engine supplier (http://www.gasholes.com/smf/index.php?topic=1751.0)

Fastco ??? - Club Cobra (http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=17717&highlight=fastco)

craggle
31-03-08, 09:40 PM
Interesting reading.

I very rarely go over there now as I thought how Rob was treated over the club members rights thing was just stupid and plain childish.

I even removed my account in protest but I seem to be back there and although I can log in I can't remove my membership.
Not worth wasting my time really.

Long live the CRC Website:mrgreen:

Craig.

robert
31-03-08, 09:47 PM
Guys

Just to give you the abridged version on this, I was getting some comments from various people about the engines coming into the UK from Daryl so I started digging.

During the digging, his banner came up for renewal so I backed off from renewing his banner on the site.

However, in the interim, Daryl decided that to get round the rules, ie no profit making classifieds (members only), he decided to join up online and post classifieds from his company. He was warned about this, however decided to ignore the warnings and was subsequently banned.

Advertising is advertising and I really don't want to turn down advertisers here as it keeps the server running and covers cost, however in this instance I have had to turn it down as I don't want any backlash from anyone who has a bad experience as there is an implicit link between advertisers and the forum, it doesn't look good for us if it all goes tits up.

griff
31-03-08, 09:48 PM
Thanks guys again, I dont want to open a can of worms...just looking at engine options either my second build or buy parts / part built etc. I couldnt afford the engine I wanted the first time so want the right one this time, the US stream with the £ been so good looked the way to go.

I think i missed the first round, dont want this thread to go off and mad, so again please pm me with any advise.

Thanks in advance, Dave

cren514
31-03-08, 09:50 PM
craig don,t bother, watch eastender instead then

dave
31-03-08, 09:57 PM
You can allways ask Paul427 on Snaketorque - the cobra replica forum and message board - Index (http://www.snaketorque.co.uk/)
he has had a 383 built by fastco just pm him and he will give you the lowdown do it before wen 2nd as he's on holiday from then


Hi Cren.
So there's one "For".
I'll match your 1, and raise you 11 "against" ;)

Miket
31-03-08, 10:01 PM
Sensible Rob and for what it's worth I totally agree with your decision. ;) ;)

robert
31-03-08, 10:04 PM
Sensible Rob and for what it's worth I totally agree with your decision. ;) ;)

First time I have been called sensible. :o

tonym
31-03-08, 10:06 PM
First time I have been called sensible. :o

Ok captain :mrgreen:

griff
31-03-08, 10:06 PM
Thanks fellas...

Had a few PM's and the Guru(s) have answered my questions...

What torque settings are....I'll build me own...

Thank you!!

Miket
31-03-08, 10:06 PM
First time I have been called sensible. :o

Ok shithead, I still agree. :rolleyes: ;) :D

robert
31-03-08, 10:08 PM
Ok shithead, I still agree. :rolleyes: ;) :D

ROTFLMAO. :):):):):)

Purple AK
31-03-08, 10:39 PM
Ok shithead, I still agree. :rolleyes: ;) :D
Pot/Kettle??? :rolleyes::mrgreen:

cren514
31-03-08, 11:32 PM
Griff thats the best way to go.Dave hows your advertising going ?

dave
31-03-08, 11:40 PM
Griff thats the best way to go.Dave hows your advertising going ?


?????:confused:

Clarkson
01-04-08, 04:20 PM
Griff thats the best way to go.Dave hows your advertising going ?


Who are you anyway??:confused::confused:

dave
01-04-08, 04:41 PM
Who are you anyway??:confused::confused:

Hi Dave.
I think "cren514" is "davep" from the "Blinded by the light" side.:D;)

craggle
01-04-08, 05:06 PM
That threads getting quite funny over there.:mrgreen:

And they say we argue amongst ourselves.http://www.todojuegos.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/gathering.gif

dingocooke
01-04-08, 05:16 PM
....actually the whole CRC Snaketorque thing is both funny and ironic IMHO.
Me? I like both forums.
Isnt it funny how specialist interests like ours sub divide? Especially ironic when you consider that we ought to be united to stop the onward march of some of the sillier legislaton being proposed by our fearless leaders!!!!

hey ho!! :D

robert
01-04-08, 07:09 PM
To be honest, I have no idea why it started over there and why it is carying on.

Both myself and Tony have swapped emails with Daryl and explained the situation however he can't seem to take no for an answer.

He has been banned from the forum for continual advertising, and he will not be allowed back on to place a banner on the site.

Both myself and Tony have been very very clear on this point, and what he is trying to acheive by posting on Snaketorque is beyond me, as it won't change the decisions made.

wilf
01-04-08, 07:17 PM
Quote "....actually the whole CRC Snaketorque thing is both funny and ironic IMHO."


Popular front anyone?


Splitters!

robert
01-04-08, 07:25 PM
PPFJ hehehe

dingocooke
02-04-08, 09:03 AM
Quote "....actually the whole CRC Snaketorque thing is both funny and ironic IMHO."


Popular front anyone?


Splitters!

at the risk of being accused of being a Trotskiest; you Comintern!!

tonym
02-04-08, 10:15 AM
at the risk of being accused of being a Trotskiest; you Comintern!!

seeing how the Comintern was dissolved in 1943, just how old do you thinhk he is..................You Trotskiest :-D (second thoughts, don't answer that :mrgreen::mrgreen:)

dingocooke
02-04-08, 10:18 AM
ok.....;-)

choogh
02-04-08, 10:19 AM
Tis a long time since I last posted on here. and I'm catching up on the Fastco fiasco..
I have no idea how or, why this matter got started and why it continues to run, perhaps a "shafted Mod" may be a clue, but as I say, I don't know.
What I do know, having bought a 383 from Fastco, is that the product "does what says on the tin". OK any engine builder ( & it's an exact science) will have third party component failures, even our good old Indian Jaguars will have theses types of problems.. Get over it !!! Move on!!.
Banning a Guy for some insignificant breach of "Advertising" policy, with the possible implications to the companies furture..is..well.....Dictatorial.. who gave CRC et al, the RIGHT to ban without the right of reply..???
For what I read, Fastco has problems deleting his old adverts..so..what!! Let the Guy post, remove his old stuff and start over..
It is little wonder that folk are falling away from this site..
Charlie.

Noel
02-04-08, 10:35 AM
At the moment I'm inclined to agree, Daryl seems to have very valid explanations to the few "accusations" on the quality issues. It would be fair to allow him to respond to accusations as it is his business/livelihood that is currently being trashed? A point in question are the posts from 2003 that can still tarnish his image, by all accounts the guy in question then was a bit of a twit.

Again it's the numbers game, the more you sell the more likely the odds will throw up a problem, and let's be fair, you can get some right knob-end customers out there that can never be pleased? (not implying it is any of us of course :cool: )

But then again......I might still only have half the story???

robert
02-04-08, 11:55 AM
Banning a Guy for some insignificant breach of "Advertising" policy, with the possible implications to the companies furture..is..well.....Dictatorial.. who gave CRC et al, the RIGHT to ban without the right of reply..???

It is not insignificant at all, the rules are there for a purpose, he was warned twice for posting adverts, and chose to ignore the warnings, and was subsequently banned.

Secondly, I have replied to him, as has Tony. He took it upon himself to post over on snaketorque, after both myself and tony had been in contact with him.

With regard to the implications to his company, those implications are of his own making, if he had respected the rules here, then he would not have been banned.

During the intervening period, I was doing some research and background to ascertain if there was any validity prior to going back to Daryl to cover off any possible issues, however he could not resist posting ads therefore was banned.

choogh
02-04-08, 12:15 PM
"It is not insignificant at all, the rules are there for a purpose, " What purpose ?/
We are a collection of Cobra enthusiasts, who strive to keep our "home made " cars on the road and away from the "Greens" and, anyone else who wishes that we drive around on rollerskates..
So.. this Guy advertises his wares, thats what we all do, from "begging" money to "do the ring"; to "stop me and buy one".

A life ban for advertising his product??..Robert..you should get out more......

By not letting the Guy post, you are possibly depriving the club of much needed revenue, if he elects to post and NOT pay a fee to advertise, then OK, we all can then understand the position, but, I think if he elects to post, he will also pay the advert fee. Its a "win-win" situation...that is, provided you and the others "deem" it to be so...
Charlie

robert
02-04-08, 12:20 PM
There are differences between owners posting ads for stuff they have lying around in the garage and suppliers posting goods they are selling for a profit over and over again.

Daryl was asked twice not to post ads, he ignored the polite request and was banned.

dingocooke
02-04-08, 12:49 PM
although however you look at it, it's Roberts' site, Roberts' bat and ball, so totally up to him how the site is managed; same as the snaketorque site too; OK, different owners and different outlooks maybe, but the same prinicple surely; we are there/here as guests of the owner; and the owners decision is final surely?
After all its not a kibbutz. ;-)

Noel
02-04-08, 12:52 PM
I don't think there can be any argument over Robert's decision to enforce the ban because of the guidelines in place on advertising. It is his website, we are all here as guests, and he would have a valid reason behind these guidelines.

What still puzzles me though is how did all the other "stuff" get dragged up
This is the area which will do him most damage, warranted or not? I for one would have to seriously think about doing business with him now (if I were to ever) purely on the "doubts" that have now been raised on his workmanship.:confused:

choogh
02-04-08, 12:53 PM
although however you look at it, it's Roberts' site, Roberts' bat and ball, so totally up to him how the site is managed; same as the snaketorque site too; OK, different owners and different outlooks maybe, but the same prinicple surely; we are there/here as guests of the owner; and the owners decision is final surely?
After all its not a kibbutz. ;-)

OK.. thats clear, I'm sorry, I thought that this was a memebers club, run for members by members..I shall not post again..
Bye..
Charlie

dingocooke
02-04-08, 01:18 PM
OK.. thats clear, I'm sorry, I thought that this was a memebers club, run for members by members..I shall not post again..
Bye..
Charlie

Charlie, I think youre confusing the CRC with the cobraclub forum; as far as I know this forum is not funded or owned by the CRC, and Robert benefactorially supports the CRC through (t)his forum; which I think is laudable considering like most of us he has a job to do and family to support as well!
I think we are all on this forum for fun and to help/amuse/enjoy each other in a common interest, but you are right in that the CRC is a '..members club, run for members by members..' it's just this site is not the CRC. Well thats my take on it anyway!
Personally I wouldnt stop posting just because of one difference in opinion, life never runs that smooth does it?? I think theres a lot of fun to be had here and some great info; hope you keep coming back!!
Steve

Noel
02-04-08, 01:23 PM
OK.. thats clear, I'm sorry, I thought that this was a memebers club, run for members by members..I shall not post again..
Bye..
Charlie

:confused: :confused:

Hi Charlie, don't be put off, your views and comments are still very welcome and at worse will lead to healthy discussions, if you have not been on here for a while you would not have known how the site is being run. In all other respects it IS a members site run for members. Without the members it would'nt really exist??

So stick around and keep posting, I for one have made a complete ar$e of myself on many occasions ;) and as far as I know, no-one has held it against me :D

robert
02-04-08, 02:01 PM
What still puzzles me though is how did all the other "stuff" get dragged up
This is the area which will do him most damage, warranted or not? I for one would have to seriously think about doing business with him now (if I were to ever) purely on the "doubts" that have now been raised on his workmanship.:confused:

Noel

I don't know where any of that was dragged up from, I have not posted anything to that effect anywhere on this forum or any others, as far as I am concerned I did some digging and uncovered some issues, however did not did not have the chance to speak to Daryl about them when he was banned.

As far as I was concerned, those conversations would have been strictly between myself and Daryl and no-one else however he was banned before we even got to that stage.

I have only heard one side of the story in full and never did get to hear the other side. I think the post on snaketorque was the first time it was aired, and it was aired by Daryl, no-one else.

From my perspective, he was banned for consistent disregard of the rules, nothing more.

wilf
02-04-08, 02:03 PM
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What still puzzles me though is how did all the other "stuff" get dragged up
This is the area which will do him most damage, warranted or not? I for one would have to seriously think about doing business with him now (if I were to ever) purely on the "doubts" that have now been raised on his workmanship.:confused:

If you look thoroughly through all the threads here, (emphasis on "here") no-one called him out for poor workmanship or materials - he brought all of that up himself in "the other place where things of darkness roam", and a couple of folks with knowledge of specific problems posted pretty much one-liners about them, triggering very long rebuttals - leading me to infer that the lady doeth protest too much..............;) BTW, in engine building as in pretty much everything else, you get what you pay for.

Personally I shan't miss his false and pushy bonhomie, but that's just me..........there are rules here, he persistently broke them after being politely asked not to by more than one person and on more than one occasion - so phuk him. Bye Bye.

If you want to sell your wares, should you not comply with the rules of the media you depend on? Pretty basic business practice IMHO. What say you Choogh?

Noel
02-04-08, 02:22 PM
If you look thoroughly through all the threads here, (emphasis on "here") no-one called him out for poor workmanship or materials - he brought all of that up himself in "the other place where things of darkness roam", and a couple of folks with knowledge of specific problems posted pretty much one-liners about them, triggering very long rebuttals - leading me to infer that the lady doeth protest too much..............;) BTW, in engine building as in pretty much everything else, you get what you pay for.

Personally I shan't miss his false and pushy bonhomie, but that's just me..........there are rules here, he persistently broke them after being politely asked not to by more than one person and on more than one occasion - so phuk him. Bye Bye.

If you want to sell your wares, should you not comply with the rules of the media you depend on? Pretty basic business practice IMHO. What say you Choogh?

I agree Wilf, it all came as a huge surprise when I took a look at the "other side", he was taking a good kicking?

As far as "false and pushy bonhomie"......he IS American you know ;)

And I am sick to the teeth about telling people you get what you pay for in engines, a lot of "experts" tell me I paid too much for mine, but I have never had ANY issues with it WHATSOEVER, it starts every time, has no leaks, doesn't blow smoke and pulls like a steam train on steroids!! Even sticking the infamous Pilgrim cooling system on it has not caused a problem.

I have even asked favours of BAE and they fall over themselves to help me when they could just tell me that it is quite rightly not their problem. I no longer feel like one of their customers but a "good friend" instead. The best money I ever spent on my build. :cool:

wilf
02-04-08, 02:39 PM
I know just what you mean Noel - when I got my engine from Repower 7 (!) years ago, it was not the cheapest option, but 20,000 miles later, having seen the redline and WOT so many times I lose count, it still performs just as it did new. And Brian has stood by any little niggles I had ( and as a perfectionist I HAD to find some!)

You get what you pay for.................unless you can buy it "trade". :mrgreen:

BTW - I have many American friends, they don't all call complete strangers "mates".

Noel
02-04-08, 03:20 PM
BTW - I have many American friends, they don't all call complete strangers "mates".


Probably thought we all spoke like that, (a la Dick Van Dyke) ;) :D

Sparticus
02-04-08, 03:56 PM
Maybe it would be an idea just to give him a temporary ban as a sort of lesson? Life ban seems a bit harsh, how about a 3month - year ban instead?
I'm fully aware rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men but burning bridges isn't always proactive. Don't get me wrong, i think it was right to ban if the rules were being flouted but a sinbin idea seems a bit more practical.

Si

robert
02-04-08, 06:15 PM
Maybe it would be an idea just to give him a temporary ban as a sort of lesson? Life ban seems a bit harsh, how about a 3month - year ban instead?
I'm fully aware rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men but burning bridges isn't always proactive. Don't get me wrong, i think it was right to ban if the rules were being flouted but a sinbin idea seems a bit more practical.

Si


I have relaxed the only other person I have banned in the past (osgood) so time will tell.

Sparticus
02-04-08, 06:23 PM
I have relaxed the only other person I have banned in the past (osgood) so time will tell.
Fingers crossed. Might take a temporary ban to make certain individuals change their ways and tow the line. Glad you considered my suggestion Rob, i only just threw it out there into the abyss. I'll leave it to you're good judgement how long exile should last :) (incidentally now the car is almost finished i'll probably be crossing your palm with silver for a membership soon).

Si

dolphinboy400
02-04-08, 06:35 PM
If you look thoroughly through all the threads here, (emphasis on "here") no-one called him out for poor workmanship or materials - he brought all of that up himself in "the other place where things of darkness roam", and a couple of folks with knowledge of specific problems posted pretty much one-liners about them, triggering very long rebuttals - leading me to infer that the lady doeth protest too much..............;) BTW, in engine building as in pretty much everything else, you get what you pay for.

Personally I shan't miss his false and pushy bonhomie, but that's just me..........there are rules here, he persistently broke them after being politely asked not to by more than one person and on more than one occasion - so phuk him. Bye Bye.

If you want to sell your wares, should you not comply with the rules of the media you depend on? Pretty basic business practice IMHO. What say you Choogh?

he certainly didnt do himself any favours with his posts, they could have been half that size had he not repeated himself. I got nothing against the guy and wish him all the best, just hope he reads the rules in future ;)

also i think a sin bin would be a good idea, or , in british fashion , a yellow card red card system :)

Clarkson
02-04-08, 09:22 PM
I have relaxed the only other person I have banned in the past (osgood) so time will tell.

Bring back Osgood that's what I say!:rolleyes:;)

griff
02-04-08, 09:46 PM
Fella's

I posted a question, for information only...please don’t trivialise it...

I have had good advice, please let this one go....

This is a good site, Rob maybe when you sign up you need to add the “Microsoft” acceptance? Just a thought may cut all this out!

dingocooke
02-04-08, 09:51 PM
...not quite so easy to close a can of worms!!! ;-)

dolphinboy400
02-04-08, 10:18 PM
Fella's

I posted a question, for information only...please don’t trivialise it...

I have had good advice, please let this one go....

This is a good site, Rob maybe when you sign up you need to add the “Microsoft” acceptance? Just a thought may cut all this out!

i think alot of peeps didnt know he was banned, and that allways bring out the nosey-parkers like me. On forums everyone has an opinion on everything which is why they are so popular, it wasnt a wich hunt mearley observations thats all. the thread on the other site has ended in the best possible way after all that , so 'jobs a goodun' as they say :D

wilf
03-04-08, 07:45 AM
Sorry Griff - I don't quite understand what you mean by "trivialising" your question. There are a large number of posts with serious content answering your original question, so what is the issue here? In time-honoured fashion, long, multi-page threads like this rarely stay on-topic, this one is, so far, an exception to that rule..................and I think you received valuable advice here and privately? :confused:

What more could you possibly ask for from a free resource?

dave
03-04-08, 06:31 PM
How some people see the situation:-
http://s3.amazonaws.com/0SAJ7JN5VFAWT249NNR2.anigifdel/9cc2f3f50884a87132e2cc442ccca7df

Noel
03-04-08, 06:38 PM
That is bl**dy funny Dave :D :D :D

dave
03-04-08, 06:46 PM
Think that one is funny?........http://www.sayagain.co.uk/b3tapix/images/charley.gif :D:D:D

Noel
03-04-08, 06:51 PM
I'm crying now??? :D :D