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Bob Findlow
28-10-01, 07:43 PM
When I eventually get to the stage where I want to register my Sumo, I think I am going to be forced into getting a 'Q' Plate. But I don't want one!! I currently own an old Vauxhall Cavalier which has a semi-interesting number plate. Is there anything stopping me transferring the cavalier plate to my Cobra?

paul
28-10-01, 08:02 PM
Hi there I'm sure you will find that you if you get a Q then you will not be able to transfer from it.If you get an age related plate then you can only change to a plate that will not make the car appear younger. I had that problem with mine although it was registered 1999 on an age related plate M 1973 I can only change to a plate that pre dates the donor year 1973.Please check with DVLA Swansea I hope things have changed if they have please call me so I can change my plate
cheers
Paul ;-)

dave
28-10-01, 08:27 PM
>When I eventually get to the stage where I want to register my Sumo, I
>think I am going to be forced into getting a 'Q' Plate. But I don't
>want one!! I currently own an old Vauxhall Cavalier which has a
>semi-interesting number plate. Is there anything stopping me
>transferring the cavalier plate to my Cobra?


to get the cav. plate first you need to avoid the dreaded"Q" mark.
This is real easy:-


step 1:- obtain a sierra V5 (log book)by either buying a log book from a breaker or if needs must put an ad. in your local paper "wanted sierra for spares" this should not cost more than 50. then scrap the car and keep the V5 (log book).MAKE SURE THE REG NO. OF THE LOG BOOK IS NEWER THAN YOUR OLD CAV.(IMPORTANT IF YOU WANT TO SWAP THE REG. LATER)

Step 2:- on the built up vehicle report form (V627/1,you will be asked to complete this in order to register the Sumo )state that all the sierra components came from the V5 that you have aquired (axles, steering , suspension)
you will then have enough donor parts to be allocated an age related plate (same year but not same number as the V5, this is not a problem).

Step 3:-Once your Sumo is on the road apply for a cherrished transfer from the cav. to the Sumo.


JOB DONE!
;-)

Mole
28-10-01, 09:49 PM
No, the rules haven't changed. If you get stuck wit ha "Q" plate you're stuck with it forever and you can't transfer any other plate on t othe car. If you get an age-related plate, you can only put one on that will make people think the car is OLDER than it really is.

ldtopham
29-10-01, 05:14 PM
I too want to stay well away from a 'Q' plate, an age related is the route I am taking. However Here are my queries:

1. My engine is a Ford Cleveland 351. Ford had a habit of not stamping the early blocks in an area that is visible without taking the engine apart but it is easily identifiable by the block shape.I have taken pictures of the identifying atamp but wether the inspector would wear this as ident i'm unsure. The casting numbers on the outside of the block relate 1973(the last 2v Cleveland) and this along with a ford build book will, I hope be enough to satisfy the SVA tester of its origns ?????

2. I am unsure as what items are classed as major donor items and how the tester checks them. I can source a V5 easily enough and transfer my engine onto the paperwork well before the build is finished, as already suggested on another thread but how feasable is this?

3.I will be using a tremec g.box (new) with my engine and would it still be an option to build a car to new registration spec? If the car has to be built from all new items what about the diff and steering column etc.. surely these items are donor items refurbished by the likes of Wards? or can you still buy new Jag diffs..$$$$$$$$

4.Sorry to post this on your thread Bob but I guess anyone with any answers to my qustions will be looking here anyway.

5. Anyone got a bellhousing/ flywheel(351c to tremec) or owt 351c for sale?



Cheers Lee.

Bob Findlow
29-10-01, 06:47 PM
> I too want to stay well away from a 'Q' plate, an age related is
>the route I am taking. However Here are my queries:
>
>1. My engine is a Ford Cleveland 351. Ford had a habit of not stamping
>the early blocks in an area that is visible without taking the engine
>apart but it is easily identifiable by the block shape.I have taken
>pictures of the identifying atamp but wether the inspector would wear
>this as ident i'm unsure. The casting numbers on the outside of the
>block relate 1973(the last 2v Cleveland) and this along with a ford
>build book will, I hope be enough to satisfy the SVA tester of its
>origns ?????
>
>2. I am unsure as what items are classed as major donor items and how
>the tester checks them. I can source a V5 easily enough and transfer
>my engine onto the paperwork well before the build is finished, as
>already suggested on another thread but how feasable is this?
>
>3.I will be using a tremec g.box (new) with my engine and would it
>still be an option to build a car to new registration spec? If the car
>has to be built from all new items what about the diff and steering
>column etc.. surely these items are donor items refurbished by the
>likes of Wards? or can you still buy new Jag diffs..$$$$$$$$
>
>4.Sorry to post this on your thread Bob but I guess anyone with any
>answers to my qustions will be looking here anyway.
>
>5. Anyone got a bellhousing/ flywheel(351c to tremec) or owt 351c for
>sale?
>
>
>
>Cheers Lee.

dave
29-10-01, 08:25 PM
> I too want to stay well away from a 'Q' plate, an age related is
>the route I am taking. However Here are my queries:
>
>1. My engine is a Ford Cleveland 351. Ford had a habit of not stamping
>the early blocks in an area that is visible without taking the engine
>apart but it is easily identifiable by the block shape.I have taken
>pictures of the identifying atamp but wether the inspector would wear
>this as ident i'm unsure. The casting numbers on the outside of the
>block relate 1973(the last 2v Cleveland) and this along with a ford
>build book will, I hope be enough to satisfy the SVA tester of its
>origns ?????
>
>2. I am unsure as what items are classed as major donor items and how
>the tester checks them. I can source a V5 easily enough and transfer
>my engine onto the paperwork well before the build is finished, as
>already suggested on another thread but how feasable is this?
>
>3.I will be using a tremec g.box (new) with my engine and would it
>still be an option to build a car to new registration spec? If the car
>has to be built from all new items what about the diff and steering
>column etc.. surely these items are donor items refurbished by the
>likes of Wards? or can you still buy new Jag diffs..$$$$$$$$
>
>4.Sorry to post this on your thread Bob but I guess anyone with any
>answers to my qustions will be looking here anyway.
>
>5. Anyone got a bellhousing/ flywheel(351c to tremec) or owt 351c for
>sale?
>
>
>
>Cheers Lee.


Q1. in this case it will be at the discretion of the tester, but if they feel that the age cannot be proved sufficiently (that's if they don't just take your word for it) you will fail until you can get better evidence ,maybe try Ford Motor Co.


Q2.Major donor items are:-
Axles (front and rear).....1 point (not serial numbered)
suspension.................1 point (not serial numbered)
steering mechanism.........1 Point (not serial numbered)
transmission...............1 point (serial number not listed on V5 anyway)
engine.....................1 point (you've got enough points already,why list it on your V5)
you only need to score 2 points to qualify for an age related plate.


Q3.Technically all the parts listed above would have to be new except one which must be fully reconditioned to an as new standard ,to quote the official line.


Q4 I don't mind. HE HE HE.


Q5.Not me.