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Peaches94
19-04-18, 01:29 PM
I have an IVA date for 2nd May at Kidderminster so thought it best to take the car through a dummy MOT test in advance.
And what a nice sunny day to pick!

The guys at F1 Autocentre in Kidderminster were really helpful and gave it a good safety check.

The good news is the brakes - including handbrake which seems problematic on AK's all passed easily. I'm using the latest pulley system design
The emissions on the SBC 350 ended up OK - well under on CO, very close on HC. They were good enough to test this several times and each time it improved - suggestion is as the engine beds in it improves but would certainly benefit from an expert tune - if I can find one!

On the to do list -

Slight leak from front brake flexy. - easy fix
Rear brake flexies need re-routing to prevent touching body on compression. - Looks straightforward.
Nearside front wheel touching inside of wheel arch (engine side) on full right lock. Left is no problem. Not sure whats happened here as I checked this previously and didn't seem to be a problem. I guess I'll need to insert a rack limit restrictor. The other thing I noticed was on full right lock - the steering seemed to over-steer - i.e. not self centering. I'm thinking the lock restriction should sort that out.
Headlights - tester said he would pass them at MOT - but they are right on the limit - bizarrely for rotation. In other words I've somehow mounted both headlights about 5 degrees clockwise. Easily solved!

Things I noticed on route to MOT station - car was quite jerky/snatchy at low speeds but I'll put that down to bedding in and me getting used to it.
Very soft and bouncy at the back end - so I need to study up how to stiffen up the GAZ adjustable dampers and will probably raise the rear ride height a little.

On the problem list -

I failed to calibrate the Speedhut Speedometer on the way to the test so need to sort this out as a priority. Most likely a cabling issue.


So at this point I've got plenty of boxes ticked for the IVA but panic will soon set in!

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nealgs
19-04-18, 01:51 PM
not too bad is that Steve :) good job.

As the to car, what a stunning colour that is - what colour is it?

Very nice indeed and the interior colour goes really well with it too.

rgds
Gary

1dayiwill
19-04-18, 01:58 PM
I take it you’ve got some head restraints somewhere.

Peaches94
19-04-18, 02:05 PM
Thanks Gary.
Its Aston Martin Diavolo red - The missus wanted Candy Apple red but the paint shop explained the problems with repairing it so we settled on the Aston colour.
The interior is Anthracite with red stitching - we think it goes well and should wear better than the lighter colours.

Peaches94
19-04-18, 02:09 PM
I take it you’ve got some head restraints somewhere.

yes - I've booked the AK IVA kit which includes the headrests. That said I want to look into some proper matching ones going forward as I think its just safer.
I've also gone for the IVA mirrors from S&J as standard - I'm happy with the way they look and you can actually see with them.

AndyM
19-04-18, 07:44 PM
Are you driving to the test centre or getting it transported?

cperry
19-04-18, 08:01 PM
Did you drive it to the MOT?

Peaches94
19-04-18, 10:01 PM
Are you driving to the test centre or getting it transported?
Hi Andy, I’ve changed my insurance to an on road policy currently insured on vin number. It’s still with footman James and I asked a specific question of them with over the legality of driving to and from dvla test centres and they said i’m covered. It also appears there’s no lime limit for being insured solely on vin - but you can only go to dvla test centres. I’ve seen other comments on here about 30 day limits. So on this basis I’ll be driving to Kidderminster which fortunately (depending on your view) is only 3 miles from home.
What I would say is I learned so much about this car from actually driving it that will put me in a much better shape for Iva. The problem for most of us with these builds is nowhere to test/ debug before submitting to detailed Iva.

cperry
20-04-18, 06:21 AM
I was under the impression you were only able to drive to compulsory tests ie, IVA tests??

KevinW
20-04-18, 07:09 AM
MOT is fine, provided there is appropriate insurance, and the MOT is pre-booked.

Peaches94
20-04-18, 08:10 AM
I can't find any definitive official statement that covers the situation on driving unregistered to MOT - but definitely the IVA guide states its OK for IVA purposes.
So I think there's a degree of risk in going to MOT - but as Kevin said, if its insured and you are pre-booked and don't take a massive detour you have a reasonable case.
I wish I could find a definitive statement rather than opinion - moot point for me as I've done it - but I'll keep looking for the benefit of others.

KevinW
20-04-18, 10:46 AM
an email/call to your insurance company ought to set your mind at rest!

AKCobra
20-04-18, 11:04 AM
Hi Andy, I’ve changed my insurance to an on road policy currently insured on vin number. It’s still with footman James and I asked a specific question of them with over the legality of driving to and from dvla test centres and they said i’m covered. It also appears there’s no lime limit for being insured solely on vin - but you can only go to dvla test centres. I’ve seen other comments on here about 30 day limits. So on this basis I’ll be driving to Kidderminster which fortunately (depending on your view) is only 3 miles from home.
What I would say is I learned so much about this car from actually driving it that will put me in a much better shape for Iva. The problem for most of us with these builds is nowhere to test/ debug before submitting to detailed Iva.

Hi Steve,

Firstly what a lovely car, pat on back.

Also great you did this without incident, because Footman James clearly and specifically told me you are NOT covered to anything other than an IVA.

Although VOSA detail you can have work done for the IVA as a designated garage??, very confusing but with 30-45k on the line not a mistake i'm going to make.

i find this really frustrating as its such a good idea to pre-check the car, this seams logical to me!

Alan.

cperry
20-04-18, 12:33 PM
MOT is fine, provided there is appropriate insurance, and the MOT is pre-booked.

The first thing the MOT garage needs to do is log your car onto the MOT server with the registration number.

So, technically, if it's not registered and its not IVA'd, it's not an MOT.

I guarantee the insurance company will use this technicality if someone ever tried to make a claim.

garry
21-04-18, 07:30 PM
The way I got over this was to get the MOT test centre to loan me their trade plates but I appreciate not all test centres will do this but it is worth a ask. It was the 1st time the car was driven and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It is well worth doing this prior to IVA as you can check omissions, brakes, head light alinement etc.

Good luck
Garry

Pickmaster
21-04-18, 08:22 PM
I was reading through IVA paperwork this year and somewhere it says you can even drive it to and from a place for iva prep work if pre booked
This is probably there for bigger vehicles HGVs which are harder to transport (but that's not defined)

petrolhead27
24-04-18, 08:22 PM
I just insured with footman james and they told me it is insured to drive to iva only on vin plate by pre booked appointment.I then asked if i would be insured being towed as i think this could be an option to get to an mot ,towing with the engine running so the brakes work. a friendly garage could go through the mot without logging it on to the system in order to check things.

Daryn Smith
24-04-18, 09:21 PM
You can only drive an insured vehicle to and from a "compulsory" test. An MOT is not a compulsory test for a newly built vehicle. You can drive it from a IVA test center to a garage that has you have an appointment with to fix any problems that the IVA test has thrown up.

KevinW
25-04-18, 06:07 AM
You can only drive an insured vehicle to and from a "compulsory" test. An MOT is not a compulsory test for a newly built vehicle. You can drive it from a IVA test center to a garage that has you have an appointment with to fix any problems that the IVA test has thrown up.

Not entirely correct.
This link suggests getting an MOT station to set up headlamp aim.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/individual-vehicle-approval-iva-for-cars-help-to-get-a-pass/individual-vehicle-approval-iva-for-cars-help-to-get-a-pass

and see 'Trident's response here:
http://mevowners.proboards.com/thread/6326/insurance-driving-mot-iva

Daryn Smith
25-04-18, 08:33 AM
Not entirely correct.
This link suggests getting an MOT station to set up headlamp aim.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/individual-vehicle-approval-iva-for-cars-help-to-get-a-pass/individual-vehicle-approval-iva-for-cars-help-to-get-a-pass

and see 'Trident's response here:
http://mevowners.proboards.com/thread/6326/insurance-driving-mot-iva

They recommend having the lights checked at an MOT station, not driving the vehicle to an MOT station. I hope you can see the difference. It has to be a compulsory test in order to fit the exemptions that then RTA allows.

Driving to and from the IVA test center as long as you are insure is fine. Driving to and from a garage with a pre-booked appointment to get repairs or modification to the vehicle that the IVA has deemed necessary is fine.

Anything else is on very dodgy ground.

KevinW
25-04-18, 12:28 PM
They recommend having the lights checked at an MOT station, not driving the vehicle to an MOT station. I hope you can see the difference. It has to be a compulsory test in order to fit the exemptions that then RTA allows.

Driving to and from the IVA test center as long as you are insure is fine. Driving to and from a garage with a pre-booked appointment to get repairs or modification to the vehicle that the IVA has deemed necessary is fine.

Anything else is on very dodgy ground.


I thought I had implied this ....so in case of doubt ...for those who would like to stay legal and have a pre-IVA MOT test under their belt, check their emissions etc to assist them come IVA time....an MOT being entirely optional..... but which few cars will pass when they roll out of the home garage:

Book work to be done at an MOT Testing station which is relevant to IVA, which might include adjusting headlights, emissions etc etc which is difficult to complete at home.

Ensure your insurance is all correct and all is fine. ..... ;)

Peaches94
02-05-18, 05:20 PM
Hi guys,

for what its worth here is the statement from the DVSA:

Use of the Vehicle

• Please remember that until the vehicle has been licensed and registered by DVLA it may only be driven to and from the above inspection appointment or, if the vehicle fails the examination, to and from a pre-booked appointment to have relevant work done on the vehicle to allow it to pass the examination. The presenter is responsible for ensuring that the vehicle has insurance cover and that it complies with the requirements of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations and Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations when driven under these circumstances.

So this says to me Driving to MOT pre-IVA is not allowed, but driving to a post-IVA repair centre is.