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stephen.cash
26-10-21, 07:39 PM
Greetings
my old 1980 Brightwheel has the light slung under the back ,not embedded in the bodywork.I am unclear if I can still do this for my new build.All advice gratefully received.
My preference is to hang them under the body if I can get away with it.
Thanks
Stephen

Chimeara
26-10-21, 07:44 PM
They Must be a minimum 250mm from the floor to the bottom of the illuminating surface. Fog light must also have 100mm minimum separation from the brake light.

Mounting them Below the rear deck of the cobra will be too low. They need to go on a bumper or the body area under the boot lid if no bumper is fitted

Hope this helps.

stephen.cash
26-10-21, 08:22 PM
They Must be a minimum 250mm from the floor to the bottom of the illuminating surface. Fog light must also have 100mm minimum separation from the brake light.

Mounting them Below the rear deck of the cobra will be too low. They need to go on a bumper or the body area under the boot lid if no bumper is fitted

Hope this helps.
Many thanks

stephen.cash
02-11-21, 07:52 PM
This is my attempt with the fog light
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I still dont feel happy with it so suggestions please

Stephen

Darnpistonbroke
02-11-21, 10:56 PM
I frenched my fog lamp into the valence below the boot lid. But that was a couple of years ago. Passed SVA in 2004 so no idea if it’s at the correct height. The fog lamp was only a few quid but it looks ok and works well.

TurboFreak
02-11-21, 11:09 PM
I fitted a duel reverse/fog lamp for the IVA test this summer, which looks neat and discreet.

I removed the bars so lamp could be clearly seen and just had the over riders fitted.

aaronjb
03-11-21, 10:48 AM
Is it just me who can't see Stephen's pictures? (I get a 404, but you folks seem to be replying to him so maybe it's just me!)

This was the best picture I could find of mine - the fog lamp is a mirror image on the driver's side:
https://i.ibb.co/PcxKVFs/image.png (https://ibb.co/F562dmk)

Oh, no, here you go:
https://i.ibb.co/g3BBNNZ/image.png (https://ibb.co/L822mmd)

They're mounted on a basic flat bar cross-shape which uses the same threaded rod as the bumper:
https://i.ibb.co/2SbD2FY/image.png (https://ibb.co/BG1XDfK)


I don't actually intend to run bumpers.. but they are the most convenient way of mounting things!

Rob P
03-11-21, 11:06 AM
Hi

I did not want bumpers so I fitted mine to the body for the IVA as you can see from the first picture. However, once it passed the IVA I wanted something a little bit neater so I fitted some neat LED ones as per the second picture.

Rob

psh
03-11-21, 04:15 PM
I got rid of my inefficient ugly rectangular fog lamp and rev lamp which had been badly mounted in cut outs in the body work, as they were dim and being obscured by the bumpers. I replaced them with two round LED combined fog/rev lights, using homemade brackets which are attached behind the over riders.

https://i.imgur.com/XKkmUTw.jpg

The lamps are protected if I accidently back into a wall, as they fit snuggly within the recess of the bumper.

https://i.imgur.com/71iBjhK.jpg

They are way more efficient than the old filament lamps and the rev lamp actually lights up the neighbour’s fence now at the end of my driveway. I decided to fit a "pair" of high power Fog lamps, as I wanted to make sure I could be seen just in case I got caught in yet another torrential down pour, especially at night

KevinW
03-11-21, 07:45 PM
Is it just me who can't see Stephen's pictures? (I get a 404, but you folks seem to be replying to him so maybe it's just me!)

This was the best picture I could find of mine - the fog lamp is a mirror image on the driver's side:
https://i.ibb.co/PcxKVFs/image.png (https://ibb.co/F562dmk)


I don't actually intend to run bumpers.. but they are the most convenient way of mounting things!

Nice work Aaron.
I've got a 404 as well. Assumed it was my incompetence, but maybe affecting others too.

psh
04-11-21, 06:19 PM
Hi Aaron,

you probably didn’t, but just in case you thought my reference to my “ugly rectangular” fog/rev lamps was a dig at your new lamps, or any body else's it wasn’t , just that my lamps looked weird growing crooked out of the body work , plus they were obscured by the bumper and were the old filament type .

I would imagine yours are fitted with LED bulbs.:)

I also couldn’t see Stephens’s pictures, I just got an advert for G Mail :-?

Mike424u
04-11-21, 10:04 PM
Here is my rear lights frenched in, not by me, but it works a treat and looks good.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/mike424u/IMG_1241.JPG?width=450&height=278&crop=fillhttps://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/mike424u/IMG_1233.JPG?width=450&height=278&crop=fillhttps://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/mike424u/IMG_1236.JPG?width=450&height=278&crop=fillhttps://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/mike424u/IMG_2143.JPG?width=450&height=278&crop=fill

aaronjb
05-11-21, 10:26 AM
you probably didn’t, but just in case you thought my reference to my “ugly rectangular” fog/rev lamps was a dig at your new lamps

Not at all! :) They are hideous plastic gonks, anyway! But hopefully IVA compliant, which is all that matters at the moment..

stephen.cash
05-11-21, 09:34 PM
Hi its most probably my error in the way I uploaded the pictures . I will try again later.
Thanks for the patience and help
Stephen
Nice work Aaron.
I've got a 404 as well. Assumed it was my incompetence, but maybe affecting others too.

TurboFreak
16-11-21, 10:24 AM
They Must be a minimum 250mm from the floor to the bottom of the illuminating surface. Fog light must also have 100mm minimum separation from the brake light.

Mounting them Below the rear deck of the cobra will be too low. They need to go on a bumper or the body area under the boot lid if no bumper is fitted

Hope this helps.

My Sumo went through IVA with a duel fog/reverse lamp and the testers had no issue with it, so no need for the 100mm if just one single lamp.

I removed the bumper bar so view wasn't impeded for test.

KevinW
16-11-21, 02:33 PM
They Must be a minimum 250mm from the floor to the bottom of the illuminating surface. Fog light must also have 100mm minimum separation from the brake light.

Mounting them Below the rear deck of the cobra will be too low. They need to go on a bumper or the body area under the boot lid if no bumper is fitted

Hope this helps.

Are there any stipulations about fog and reverse for MOTs? I am thinking of incorporating these into my hardtop.

Chris1
16-11-21, 07:04 PM
As far as I know the requirements are that if they are fitted they must work,
thats it .
So that would apply to your old Morris Minor for instance.
Chris.

early_911
17-11-21, 12:00 PM
Looking on the MOT rules https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-private-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles), it says the MOT'er needs to inspect:


the 1 rear fog lamp which must be fitted to the centre or offside of vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1980
must inspect all reversing lamps fitted to vehicles first used from 1 September 2009 other than quadricycles and three-wheeled vehicles

For my car, I temp add a fog light of the MOT (switched in the cabin) and don't have a reverse light. She passes like this.

Phil

KevinW
17-11-21, 12:56 PM
Thanks Phil.