Is this for real?

[wilf]

F**k 'em - use the internet radio on a PC and tell them to go fiddle. That is not a "broadcast" in the legal sense as I understand it. Any comments from more knowledgable folks on that idea? (that does'nt include you pikey sick boy.....)

[Chimeara]

Noel, training is going well which brings me back to this topic. I think its covered under section 3.1 dash 4 of the what a complete load of tosh act, there are many other topics that are also covered by this act.

Havent quite studied them properly in my ongoing training so will keep you advised as and when I do lol.

[Carl L]

Another stupid rule to generate cash from the public. It's like the TV license another cash cow!

Roll on next year - lets have a change of Government.

carl

[ss64ii]

This is quite true, last year Kwik-Fit were fined over £100,000 for playing radios in their workshops around the country, someone went round various branches on different days, they all had radios playing!



Last Updated: Friday, 5 October 2007, 13:25 GMT 14:25 UK



Kwik-Fit sued over staff radios

Kwik-Fit had called for the case to be dismissed
A car repair firm has been taken to court accused of infringing musical copyright because its employees listen to radios at work.
The action against the Kwik-Fit Group has been brought by the Performing Rights Society which collects royalties for songwriters and performers.

At a procedural hearing at the Court of Session in Edinburgh a judge refused to dismiss the £200,000 damages claim.

Kwik-Fit wanted the case brought against it thrown out.

Lord Emslie ruled that the action can go ahead with evidence being heard.

The PRS claimed that Kwik-Fit mechanics routinely use personal radios while working at service centres across the UK and that music, protected by copyright, could be heard by colleagues and customers.

It is maintained that amounts to the "playing" or "performance" of the music in public and renders the firm guilty of infringing copyright.

The Edinburgh-based firm, founded by Sir Tom Farmer, is contesting the action and said it has a 10 year policy banning the use of personal radios in the workplace.

Playing music

The PRS lodged details of countrywide inspection data over the audible playing of music at Kwik-Fit on more than 250 occasions in and after 2005.

It claimed that its pleadings in the action were more than enough to allow a hearing of evidence in the case at which they would expect to establish everything allegedly found and recorded at inspection visits.

Lord Emslie said: "The key point to note, it was said, was that the findings on each occasion were the same with music audibly 'blaring' from employee's radios in such circumstances that the defenders' [Kwik-Fit] local and central management could not have failed to be aware of what was going on."

The judge said: "The allegations are of a widespread and consistent picture emerging over many years whereby routine copyright infringement in the workplace was, or inferentially must have been, known to and 'authorised' or 'permitted' by local and central management."

He said that if that was established after evidence it was "at least possible" that liability for copyright infringement would be brought home against Kwik-Fit.

But Lord Emslie said he should not be taken as accepting that the PRS would necessarily succeed in their claims.

[xX vedder Xx]

I am having the same problem right now. I keep getting letters and phone calls saying that i need to to pay the fee And i am a one man band. I said that if the guy would like to come round and talk about it. i would happly rap the radio round his f**king head and the pr*ck said he would. Am still waiting!!!!

[alfiebeard]

Originally Posted by dingocooke

This has been around for decades, the PRS performing rights society was set up to protect artists interests on public performance of their copyright works; if you have a business and use a CD for your 'on hold' music, or play a radio in the workplace you should have a PRS licence; check out most shops that play music they will have the little blue prs label in their window; nothing new here sorry

http://www.accesstomusic.co.uk/partn...es/PRS-web.jpg

Hi Steve,
I often read replies and thread made by your goodself,but I have a problem !! on reading your replies etc I find that coz I dont have a 21" monitor I have to keep going forward and back on each line.could you press return a bit more often so I can read it quicker,I know I am a moaning old get and am too greedy to buy a bigger monitor so I beat you too that one.
Kind regards
Alfie B

[alfiebeard]

Originally Posted by xX vedder Xx

I am having the same problem right now. I keep getting letters and phone calls saying that i need to to pay the fee And i am a one man band. I said that if the guy would like to come round and talk about it. i would happly rap the radio round his f**king head and the pr*ck said he would. Am still waiting!!!!

HA HA the best reply ive read in months nice one mate.
Alfie B

[john w]

Originally Posted by alfiebeard

Hi Steve,
I often read replies and thread made by your goodself,but I have a problem !! on reading your replies etc I find that coz I dont have a 21" monitor I have to keep going forward and back on each line.could you press return a bit more often so I can read it quicker,I know I am a moaning old get and am too greedy to buy a bigger monitor so I beat you too that one.
Kind regards
Alfie B

Wilf & Alfie beat me to it, I'm waiting for them to call me I carnt wait.

John

[slogger]

................so if under the new H&S rules you are forbidden to smoke in a company vehicle as this is considered to be your 'Work Place', how long will it be before this radio ruling is applied to your car/van??! How much more tax will Thieving Gormless Gorden demand? Just a thought.

[dingocooke]

Originally Posted by alfiebeard

Hi Steve,
I often read replies and thread made by your goodself,but I have a problem !! on reading your replies etc I find that coz I dont have a 21" monitor I have to keep going forward and back on each line.could you press return a bit more often so I can read it quicker,I know I am a moaning old get and am too greedy to buy a bigger monitor so I beat you too that one.
Kind regards
Alfie B

hi
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it
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change
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