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Old 23-07-07, 12:38 PM
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Height of Radiator

The lower cradle for my radiator is U-shaped with two horiziontal lips at each end. The overall width is too wide to fit within the overrider horns. But it will fit underneath. This leaves the lower part of the radiator level with the bottom of the chin scoop but the ends protrude when viewed from the front. Also, there is a good clearance between top of the radiator and body. Looks like I'll have to split the cradle, cut out a short section and weld back up. Then the radiator can be held higher by resting the cradle on top of the horns. This should leave teh raditor not visible from the front and a slight incline backwards.

So, the point of my story is to determine the exact height of the radiator. For example, should it be completely occluded when the car is seen from the front? And what kind of incline at the top is required? Half an inch, one inch, two inches??


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Old 23-07-07, 05:20 PM
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Simple answer is to fit the radiator and then work out how heigh you can fix it without the top 2 corners of the rad touching the body. HTH
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Old 23-07-07, 06:02 PM
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The lower cradle for my radiator is U-shaped with two horiziontal lips at each end. The overall width is too wide to fit within the overrider horns. But it will fit underneath. This leaves the lower part of the radiator level with the bottom of the chin scoop but the ends protrude when viewed from the front. Also, there is a good clearance between top of the radiator and body. Looks like I'll have to split the cradle, cut out a short section and weld back up. Then the radiator can be held higher by resting the cradle on top of the horns. This should leave teh raditor not visible from the front and a slight incline backwards.

So, the point of my story is to determine the exact height of the radiator. For example, should it be completely occluded when the car is seen from the front? And what kind of incline at the top is required? Half an inch, one inch, two inches??


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What does occluded mean?
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Old 23-07-07, 06:30 PM
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Get your dictionary out young man..mine says:

1. To cause to become closed; obstruct: occlude an artery.
2. To prevent the passage of: occlude light; occlude the flow of blood.
3. Chemistry To absorb or adsorb and retain (a substance).
4. Meteorology To force (air) upward from the earth's surface, as when a cold front overtakes and undercuts a warm front.
5. Dentistry To bring together (the upper and lower teeth) in proper alignment for chewing.
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To close so that the cusps fit together. Used of the teeth of the upper and lower jaws.

Although Im not quite sure if the context Bob used it in is really right; Im guessing he meant getting it in a position so that that the rad completely filled the opening around it when viewed from the front??
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Old 23-07-07, 06:52 PM
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Get your dictionary out young man..mine says:

1. To cause to become closed; obstruct: occlude an artery.
2. To prevent the passage of: occlude light; occlude the flow of blood.
3. Chemistry To absorb or adsorb and retain (a substance).
4. Meteorology To force (air) upward from the earth's surface, as when a cold front overtakes and undercuts a warm front.
5. Dentistry To bring together (the upper and lower teeth) in proper alignment for chewing.
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To close so that the cusps fit together. Used of the teeth of the upper and lower jaws.

Although Im not quite sure if the context Bob used it in is really right; Im guessing he meant getting it in a position so that that the rad completely filled the opening around it when viewed from the front??

Surely "closed" would have been enough.

Some of you guys use some long,complicated words sometimes - I`m sure you just make them up.
























Apart from Sir Wilf that is - his vocabulary is always right - I think.
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The lower cradle for my radiator is U-shaped with two horiziontal lips at each end. The overall width is too wide to fit within the overrider horns. But it will fit underneath. This leaves the lower part of the radiator level with the bottom of the chin scoop but the ends protrude when viewed from the front. Also, there is a good clearance between top of the radiator and body. Looks like I'll have to split the cradle, cut out a short section and weld back up. Then the radiator can be held higher by resting the cradle on top of the horns. This should leave teh raditor not visible from the front and a slight incline backwards.

So, the point of my story is to determine the exact height of the radiator. For example, should it be completely occluded when the car is seen from the front? And what kind of incline at the top is required? Half an inch, one inch, two inches??
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Most of Dax's I have seen, the radiator corners can be seen sticking out either side of the oil cooler aperture. Don't think the radiator will go high enough to prevent this.

Mine is the same.

If it helps, the cradle goes on the outside of the chassis horns.
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Thanks John. I seem to have confused some with the word 'occluded'. I meant 'not seen'. But you have answered my question by saying that the lower corners can still be seen from the front. I think I still need to get the radiator a bit higher but my cradle will not fit on the outside of the horns. The 'U' is too wideto go between and too narrowto go outside. It looks as if the two horizontal lugs are designed to be bolted to the lower face of the horns. I think I'll just cut and weld so that I can fit it between the horns then the lugs will rest on to of them. A single bolt on each side should secure it. And this will raise the radiator about 5cm.


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Thanks John. I seem to have confused some with the word 'occluded'. I meant 'not seen'. But you have answered my question by saying that the lower corners can still be seen from the front. I think I still need to get the radiator a bit higher but my cradle will not fit on the outside of the horns. The 'U' is too wideto go between and too narrowto go outside. It looks as if the two horizontal lugs are designed to be bolted to the lower face of the horns. I think I'll just cut and weld so that I can fit it between the horns then the lugs will rest on to of them. A single bolt on each side should secure it. And this will raise the radiator about 5cm.


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I think the radiator should be occluded, but if you can still see the bottom corners, it should be occluded enough.

Why are you trying to hide your radiator? - Is it a secret radiator?
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no; simply put, it was excluded from an occult gathering in its home village of Serck Marston by its elusive parents who colluded to occlude it from any public contact, causing acute embarrasment to its very core in later life whenever its corners were exposed; well that was my conclusion..

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