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Old 07-08-02, 02:05 PM
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RE: IS it a bit cheap?

No just an observation...Perhaps worth considering the resale value when deciding what to build and if it is sensitive to engine type/make.

Also it's not often you see a line up of models on a single page at mostly the same angle. I personally don't care if a car is an exact replica or not. I'm much more interested in quality and the recognition of the personal effort someone has made in building something.
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Old 07-08-02, 02:46 PM
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RE: IS it a bit cheap?

Chris, I think that "opinions" are half the fun of this website.

Talking of going over the same things over and over again... have you watched they think it's all over? One more comment about Linekars Jug ears or Johnathan "Woss's" speach impediment and I'll split my sides.

We know we're not driving a "real Cobra" but the average "Joe" in the street doesn't. I'm sure a lot of people build for one reason or another... me I wanted a posing machine. Something that sounded great and turned heads. I'm sure it will do that.

Mine's an AK427 and nowhere does it say anything about cobra... however all my neighbours drink my tea and ask how the "cobra" is coming along.

What's all this waffle leading to.... Nothing I suppose... just another one of us voicing our "opinions".

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Old 07-08-02, 04:17 PM
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RE: IS it a bit cheap?

Ok, here's an alternative on the engine make front.

Suppose there was a market for Corvette replicas. I would find it as "strange" to put a Ford engine in that as it is to put a Chevy in a Cobra.

There is no argument here about which is the better engine - both makes have racetrack wins aplenty. Both makes have powered millions of cars. I accept that a Chevy is as good a V8 as a Ford, whatever you may have seen me print in jest.

But it still does not feel "right" to me to fit anything other than a Ford, budget limitations excepted. I would not dream of fitting a Ford engine into a Corvette, nor a Chevy engine into a DeTomaso. Wouldn't be "right".

Resale prices in the US are significantly less for Chevy engined cars, the market there, as I have said, is far more polarised between the two makes.

I would be very interested to find out what Halllmark or any of the other resellers think about how two identical "high end" cars, one with a Ford engine, one with a Chevy, would be valued.


As always, folks can do whatever they feel is "right" for their car - after all, that German bloke is obviously happy with his VW engined cobra! Just that, for me, "Cobra" is synonymous with "Ford".

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Old 07-08-02, 04:25 PM
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RE: IS it a bit cheap?

Oh Chris - how could you go and do that? You just took all the fun out of our arguments.

Being logical and applying any thought to a post is just not playing the game!!

Now kindly delete your post so we can go back to normal!!

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Old 07-08-02, 04:28 PM
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RE: IS it a bit cheap?

Wilf

This isn't directed at you, it is just an observation.

There is no right or wrong, it is just down to personal preference.

What I might add though is that I do not agree with your following comment.

"But it still does not feel "right" to me to fit anything other than a Ford, budget limitations excepted. I would not dream of fitting a Ford engine into a Corvette, nor a Chevy engine into a DeTomaso. Wouldn't be "right"."

We have not built Cobras, we have built "replicas" therefore there is no reason to install the "correct" engine whatever that may be. The only reason to put a Ford into an original cobra would be to protect its resale value.

If an owner wants to put a chevy into his replica, or a ford into his replica, what right do we have to tell him he is wrong. It is down to his personal preference and in the UK will more than likely not affect the resale value.

This comment is true for whether the owner puts a 2 ltr Pinto, a Rover V8, a BMW, or whatever.

I had a chap at Stoneleigh come and talk to me and he asked if there is any snobbery regarding the engine put into a replica. I said that we don't really have that, however it looks like I was wrong, which I am quite disappointed with.

Does it really matter at the end of the day what engine you have in your replica, we are a collective group of people who like a particular shape, and should therefore support any and all individuals regardless of whether they have the "right" engine or not.

Right, I am off my soapbox now and have rambled for far too long.



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RE: IS it a bit cheap?

for me AC/Shelby Cobra is synonymous with ford also - but not FFR/SPF/Crendon/AK/Dax/Pilgrim/GD/etc/etc.
As you say it's down to personal preference - for me as I know it's not real what powers it does not matter (as long as it goes fast and sounds good).
Though it may appear it, I am not a heathen - a real E-type should have a Jag engine (preferably 4.2 straight 6), a real Corvette should have a Chevy engine, obviously not having the right bits would effect the value but if they were replicas (if treplicas of such cars exist) then it would not matter.

Not sure this helps with the original GD question, but it makes for a good argument

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RE: IS it a bit cheap?

Steps down to rapturous applause from the assembled crowd.

Quite right too, as long as its got bits that go up and down and makes the car go forawrd then Im happy, of course a good measure of burble is required to maintain the pretence that the we are driving a real cobra.

I must confess to looking on 6 & 4 cyclinder versions with slightly less admiration, but as I said to my dad as we looked over cars with widely varying build finishes as Duxford, Someone has spent months even years of their lives stuck in a garage making that car look like that. I havent even got the garage yet so im in awe of you all.

Thats it, Im off too now.

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Old 07-08-02, 05:04 PM
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RE: IS it a bit cheap?

Guys, Guys - don't get me wrong here, I am only voicing my own personal opinion. I am not about to devalue anyone elses' personal choices either, but if asked, I would always say that a cobra or a cobra replica, however you want to cut it, should have a Ford engine. Not a snobbery thing, just MHO.

In all honesty, I am mystified as to why anyone should want to do anything else???? But for sure, this would not be the only thing in life that mystifies me, so I am not going to make a big deal about it.

We were talking about subjective opinions , not objective facts, weren't we?

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RE: IS it a bit cheap?

If theres no snobbery is it ok to put a 1.8 ford diesel in then ? I wouldnt like to upset anyone .

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Old 08-08-02, 10:38 AM
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RE: IS it a bit cheap?

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The engine in my Mini has just about gone kaput. Oil bleeding in through leaky piston rings and is burning oil etc.

Before I get a new engine has anyone got any complaints if I don't put an original 1977 Mini engine in it?
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