Value for money

[gareth08]

Here comes a the proverbial can of worms,

Which is better for the money you spend i.e Pilgrim , Dax , AK , GD etc

lets just take the actual values that a Cob is worth roughly with the following,

Ford/Chevy V8
Manual Gearbox
Leather Interior
Replica Halibrand wheels with tyres
Sidepipes or underslungs
Paint
Brightwork etc

You get the Idea,
Lets just say that the price for the above is 15 grand regardless of what kit you are putting it on and the kit is put together well i.e build quality is equal across the board' then why is say a GD worth apprx 2x as much as a Sumo.


The point is here if a set of wheels/tyres etc and engine cost 15K for a Sumo and the same items cost 15k for a Dax but the Dax is worth say 10k more.WHY

I know the arguments will start with better base kit , better handling etc BUT if exactly the same parts are used then why are some kits worth more with the exception of the above.

Please take out of the equation build time etc as I am going on the assumption that these are built by there owners so labor is not in the cost.

Lets say that a Sumo is worth 20 k built but an AK with exactly the same parts is worth 30k. why.???

The only difference is the cost of the base kit which is approx no more than 2k so where does the other 8 k come into it.

The only reason i can see is that one (allegedly) handles better than another so to see which is better value for money why don't we organize a day where all the different makes can be put through a series of tests (1/4 mile , circuit etc) and see what the difference in times is.

My point is that if say you have a Sumo that cost 20k and was 1 second slower on a circuit and MPH slower on a 1/4 mile over a GD that cost 40k is that difference worth 8K

Again I know that there are those that will say the GD looks better than an AK which looks better than a Dax etc but that alone would not make a difference of say 10k if the same bits are used.


Lets see who would be willing to put their 30k+ car against say a 15k car because of (alleged) superiority.


Who's up for it??????

[DiggleBBC]

Easy. It doesn't matter.

Value for money is getting the car you dreamed of, if it doesn't live up to the dream, it doesn't matter what make it is, or what you paid for it.

[gareth08]

Originally Posted by DiggleBBC

Easy. It doesn't matter.

Value for money is getting the car you dreamed of, if it doesn't live up to the dream, it doesn't matter what make it is, or what you paid for it.

Good Answer:thumb:
except for the bit (if it doesn't live up to the dream)

[Clive]

So why then is an Audi dearer/better than a VW which is better/dearer than a Seat which is better/dearer than a Skoda as they are all same build quality/performance.

[Andy S]

I see where Gareth is coming from here.
If you look through the classifieds, and you have a spec in mind, ie jag based, ford or chevy V8, etc etc then why are the Pilgrims at the bottom end of the price ladder and GD & Crendon at the top, almost double that of the Pilgrim and generally 10K more than the Dax AK SRV8 ??????
The screen, interior, brightwork etc is all the same regardless of kit, and so is the engine, gearbox and running gear.
So as Gareth says why are some almost double the price of others. ???

OK engine spec will make some difference, but surely not that much unless its a super duper big block all singing & dancing fandango unit.

[Miket]

You can add an extra £1000 to £1500 on to the build price for the Jag runing gear over the Sumo's Granada/Sierra running gear. :thumb:

[gareth08]

Originally Posted by Clive

So why then is an Audi dearer/better than a VW which is better/dearer than a Seat which is better/dearer than a Skoda as they are all same build quality/performance.

But there not are they??/

all built under the same banner but in different countries (cheaper labor) and cheaper parts in most cases and in others you are paying £200 for a light coz its Audi (name) and £1.99 for a Skoda.

I,m talking about all things equal nothing to do with corporate company's etc

[530se]

To answer Clive's question and probably the whole thing IMHO it comes down to badge snobbery.

But at the end of the day who cares if it's the car that you want and it does what you want it to do:thumb:

[gareth08]

Originally Posted by Miket

You can add an extra £1000 to £1500 on to the build price for the Jag runing gear over the Sumo's Granada/Sierra running gear. :thumb:

For fucks sake I said all things equal I.e same all round (Pilgrim do a Jag based version as well)

Even taking that into account where is the other 6500k to 6k gone then

Mike go away on holiday again and get some reading lessons

[Andy S]

Originally Posted by Miket

You can add an extra £1000 to £1500 on to the build price for the Jag runing gear over the Sumo's Granada/Sierra running gear. :thumb:

Thats the point Mike even a jag based sumo will be half the price of a GD or Crendon, when basically they are the same.