Future Engine Project

[Martyn-ak427]

Hi all

It may be a little early to be thinking about my next project as the AK & 392ci Windsor are no where near completion however I have been thinking about what would be involved in recreating an original Cobra 427ci engine? I appreciate modern builds or strokers of similair displacement with modern heads would out perform an original spec 427 but out & out performance would not be my goal as the build remit priority would be authenticity.

Any info greatly appreciated,

Martyn

[wilf]

Start searching on "side oiler" and see what turns up.

All you need is ££££s.

[Miket]

Originally Posted by wilf leek

Start searching on "side oiler" and see what turns up.

All you need is ££££s.

One I took earlier of NeilO's side oiler. Wilf wouldn't post it cos he's jealous as hell. :thumb:

[fastco]

Originally Posted by Martyn-ak427

Hi all

It may be a little early to be thinking about my next project as the AK & 392ci Windsor are no where near completion however I have been thinking about what would be involved in recreating an original Cobra 427ci engine? I appreciate modern builds or strokers of similair displacement with modern heads would out perform an original spec 427 but out & out performance would not be my goal as the build remit priority would be authenticity.

Any info greatly appreciated,

Martyn

Were building 351W/408cid (target) 450+BHP 480+ ft lbs torque stroker engine for AK in UK... going to dyno then cross the pond..... this combonation is the most bang for the pound bar none.. my opinion.

Cross the pond i bulild mostly Ford FE 410 & 428 CJ & SCJ & 427 CO & SO
engines for Cobras this side the pond.. your best bang for the dollar here with the BB is the Ford 410 FE engine YES the 410FE is a Ford/ Mercery engine HI-PO built in the mid to late 60's and developes 500+BHP easly on a budget..
Quick skinny:
1- Ford BB # C6ME-A, block with 4.050 bore , crank IU or IUB 428 CJ with 3.98 stroke ,Rods 428 CJ # C7AE-B , pistons use Probe forged readly avaliable... heads use Ed 's RPM ally
The Ford BB FE engines can be very pricey to buy... eg: 428CJ & SCJ & 427 SO or SOHC engines
HUGE DOSH.. and beware... centre oiler 427FE/cheap to buy engines and are being sold as side oiler engines its an old game here cross the pond...mention side oiler 427 and it adds 4,000 to 5,000+ $ to the cost of the engine your buying..... the trick find a 427 CO or marine 427 CO or Industrial 427 CO... strip it go to machine shop have them rifle drill side oil gallerys & block CO galleries in side the block..bata boom side oiler 427 block done right you'd have to be very sharp to tell it was a converted 427CO engine.

Anyway just a heads up......
My 2 cents / pence..cheers! Dr,Dee

[Neil O]

Martyn, if you talk to Bill Parham at Southern Automotive he'll sell you a sideoiler. They are expensive, but that's just the way the cookie crumbles.
Pm me if you want to know the cost and spec of mine.

Would you be looking at putting it in an AK or another make?
My point being, can you make an AK 'authentic enough' for your needs?

Incoming!

[dingocooke]

Good point if you want to be really authentic, its got to be minimum Crendon or Kirkham??

[chesterak]

A chap in the same welding class as me has an original 289. except that it's fitted with an FIA body and a 351W engine. He rocons "most" 427 S/C's were actually fitted with 428 known as "Police persuit" engines. :thumb:

[Neil O]

Originally Posted by chesterak

A chap in the same welding class as me has an original 289. except that it's fitted with an FIA body and a 351W engine. He rocons "most" 427 S/C's were actually fitted with 428 known as "Police persuit" engines. :thumb:

When it comes to Cobra history, a lot of people reckon a lot of different things...........................

[runt]

Originally Posted by chesterak

A chap in the same welding class as me has an original 289. except that it's fitted with an FIA body and a 351W engine. He rocons "most" 427 S/C's were actually fitted with 428 known as "Police persuit" engines. :thumb:

Hi Stan, the way I understood it is that 427 street were fitted with 428FE for a while due to holdup in supply of 427, but 427 s/c and competition got 427 side oiler. Also, those 'in the know' insisted on 427 in street car.

Paul/runt.

[dingocooke]

Either way you need to be dating the daughter of an oil sheik to many miles in one !