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    Law on using a "Towing Dolly"?

    Does anybody know the law about using a "Towing Dolly" compaired to a car trailer.

    The bottom line is, my son has just built a trackcar and obviously wants to transport it to trackdays. If it is not road taxed or insured, can he use a dolly or not, as I went to see several trailers today and they were rubbish for the price.

    Or does anybody know of a reasonably priced small car trailer for a 106?
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    My first instinct is that you can't legally tow a car without tax/insurance. If it's wheels are on the ground and it is capable of moving under it's own propulsion then it is being "driven" on a road.
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    Yep Robin66 is correct,you need a full trailer M8.
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    Whats the max (braked) trailer weight for a 106? Is that going to have enough umph to pull a car trailer (500kg) with a car on top (1500kg)??

    Oops. The 106 is ON the trailer, right? D'oh
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    Your handbook will tell you what the max towing capacity of your vehicle is, if you havnt got one then contact a main dealer and they will supply the info.
    Also be very careful of the 'nose weight', ie the weight at the coupling as this is very important as well as the overall weight.
    Best to get a 4 wheel trailer, and if poss with the wheels outside of the bed, that way the towed vehicle is as low as possible and wont cause undue drag when towing.
    Spend several years towing race cars around the country, so I do speak from experience.
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    [quote="Andy S"]Your handbook will tell you what the max towing capacity of your vehicle is,

    That's not a problem as it's a Disco.

    It's the law on using a Dolly that I want verified please!
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    I don't think Tax and Insurance are your problem,

    'A' frames and Dollies
    Q. What is a trailer?
    A. A road vehicle, usually (but not necessarily) two wheeled, towed by a motor vehicle.Given the above dictionary definition, it is fairly clear that anything attached to the towball and having wheels in contact with the ground is a trailer. This includes cars on ‘A’ frames and dollies. Bearing in mind that the unbraked towing limit of 750 kgs refers to Maximum Gross Weight (i.e. the figure on the towed cars VIN plate) and not to actual weight, it severely restricts the options. The only cars I know of with a MGW of less than 750 kgs is the Aixam range. These are around 450 to 550 kgs.


    There are strict regulations on braked trailers and, whilst a braked ‘A’ frame attached to a towed car constitutes a braked trailer, it is not legal for transportation as it cannot comply with EC71/320. With car dollies, the situation is somewhat different. Under regulation 83 of the Road Vehicles (construction & Use) Regulations 1986 (SI.1986/107 Amending Regulations, a car dolly, with a car in place, will be considered as two trailers. This is legal for recovery but, under the Road Traffic Regulations Act 1984 (Schedule 6) the combination is limited to 40 mph on motorways and dual carriageways and 20 mph elsewhere.

    Note that there is a very specific difference between recovery and transportation. Recovery is the removal of a broken down vehicle to a place of safety. It does not include removing a rotor arm (for instance) and travelling the length and breadth of the country. The police are well aware of the difference due to the regulations covering Tachographs and Operators Licences. Recovery vehicles are exempt.

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    [quote="Miket"]I don't think Tax and Insurance are your problem,

    Thanks Mike,

    Have found two other trailers within 70 miles on Evilbay that I will bid on this week.

    Junior is just finishing off his "winter project" and has track time at Combe next Saturday.

    As I have a 50% share, I dare say that I will be in the passenger seat.

    Can I borrow some of your incontinence pads?
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