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Old 21-11-01, 09:28 AM
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Correct Registration

On page 90 of December 2001 Kit Car is a letter asking about taking a cobra to the states.The answer throws up an interesting problem.Ian Hyne says,if a car is still registered as a Daimler,This car was registered pre-SVA,The chassis number died and the car is not in fact registered at all.He goes on to say as long as it is insured as a cobra this is only a "bumf offence".Also that the MOT station should not put Daimler on the MOT(which would obviously cause problems when taxing the car).But keep quite and use the same garage.I would like to here from anyone with a pre-SVA car and any problems encountered.

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Old 21-11-01, 10:04 AM
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No replica should be classed as a daimler or jag etc. There was an amnesty a while back to get these things in line. Also if I were going to buy a second hand replica and it said daimler on the V5, I would steer very clear of it as it will cause problems in the future when the DVLA tighten up on things like this.

My V5 say Gardner Douglas, which is what it should say. Not Jag.

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Old 21-11-01, 11:52 AM
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RE: Correct Registration

>No replica should be classed as a daimler or jag etc. There was an
>amnesty a while back to get these things in line. Also if I were
>going to buy a second hand replica and it said daimler on the V5, I
>would steer very clear of it as it will cause problems in the future
>when the DVLA tighten up on things like this.
>
>My V5 say Gardner Douglas, which is what it should say. Not Jag.
>
>Robert


I'll second that,
If a car was registered before the days of SVA it should have been inspected by the DVLA who would have either issued the car with a "Q" registration , or if when inspected the owner at that time produced enough evidence to show that the car was built using a single donor vehicle with nearly all the major mechanical components ie.axles,steering,suspension,transmission and optionally the engine coming from that vehicle then the cobra would be allowed to retain the donor vehicles registration number,and the V5 would say make of vehicle ,Gd,Dax,AK,Pilgrim etc.and definately not Daimler or Jaguar.Any cobra that is described as Daimler or Jaguar or cortina or granada etc. is incorrectly registered and not insured and is liable to an SVA test.
if you are in the market to buy a Cobra replica ,insist on seeing the V5 (log book) and if the description of the car is wrong you have two choices ,either walk away or be prepared to put the car through SVA.

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Old 24-11-01, 07:35 AM
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RE: Correct Registration

This is interesting. I took my pre-SVA car to be inspected at the Birmingham office of DVLA during the amnesty period and after the car had been on the road for about 7/8 years. It had been registered as an MG Sports (it is a BRA 289) and after the inspection I eventually got a letter, confirming the inspection, and telling me I could keep the original 1963 registration number and that the car was an MG Cobra MkII and that is what it says on the revised V5.
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Old 24-11-01, 09:52 AM
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>This is interesting. I took my pre-SVA car to be inspected at the
>Birmingham office of DVLA during the amnesty period and after the car
>had been on the road for about 7/8 years. It had been registered as an
>MG Sports (it is a BRA 289) and after the inspection I eventually got
>a letter, confirming the inspection, and telling me I could keep the
>original 1963 registration number and that the car was an MG Cobra
>MkII and that is what it says on the revised V5.
>David Large

Hi David.
sometimes (quite regularly) the DVLA write in not quite the right details but as long as they have inspected it and decided what number it should have it's not a problem, they will have records to show that they have inspected the car.As for calling it a Cobra...well did you tell them that it was a Cobra when you had it inspected or did you tell them it was a BRA?
In the pre SVA days the make read as Jaguar Dax more often than not on the V5
many times i have had log books (V5) come back to me reading the model as "two axle rigid" in the place of "Tojeiro" even when i have filled in the V55/5 correctly.this problem is not limited to the kit car industry,I once imported a couple of BMW M Roadsters(Z3) and the log books for those came to me reading "Two axle rigid" in the section where it should have read "M Roadster".
it seems that the DVLA can be negligent about filling in documents but we can't.

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Old 26-11-01, 07:05 AM
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Dave
I told them it was a BRA and showed them the BRA name plate and chassis no. in the engine bay. The inspector just kept saying what a nice car it was and that the regulations were a lot of b*ll*cks.
I pin my faith on the letter I have from them and I keep a copy in the glovebox of the car.
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Old 26-11-01, 08:59 AM
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Nice one...
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