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    Securing copper fuel pipe to rubber hose

    Has anyone any pearls of wisdom attaching rubber (not so flexible) fuel pipe on engine to copper 8mm fuel pipe. I have seen the term swageing, but not sure what this means. Can i use my brake pipe flaring tool to prepare the copper pipe?
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    Re: Securing copper fuel pipe to rubber hose

    Hi Kev, usually the ends of copper pipe are flared to prevent rubber fuel line from coming off once they have been clamped up with a jubilee type clip.
    I used a basic type of flaring tool on my 10mm copper pipe to ensure the rubber fuel line will not come adrift.

    If you are going to use this type tool on it be careful as with mine if I flared the pipe fully it was almost impossible to get the rubber fuel line over the end, as you have already stated it is not overly flexible.

    Another option which I think is acceptable at the SVA test centres is to double jubilee clip the pipes.

    Personally I'd rather flare the ends, much safer!
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    Re: Securing copper fuel pipe to rubber hose

    I read somewhere you need to use a double flare.

    Flare and a (couple of ) clips should see you OK.

    You have to be more onerous with injection to withstand the higher pressures.

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    Re: Securing copper fuel pipe to rubber hose

    Can you double flare with the horseshoe 'former type' flaring tools? I may buy some new rubber as i presume it goes hard with time.
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    Re: Securing copper fuel pipe to rubber hose

    Not sure!!

    However a flare plus 2 clips will give a very secure fixing, and should be OK for SVA?

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    Re: Securing copper fuel pipe to rubber hose

    hi kev
    what about soldering some copper wire to the pipe and then using a jubilee...won't be as good as an 'olive' but have you tried a plumbers merchant to see whats available ?
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    Re: Securing copper fuel pipe to rubber hose

    I'd advise not to solder in-situ using a torch...
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    Re: Securing copper fuel pipe to rubber hose

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    Re: Securing copper fuel pipe to rubber hose

    'Robin

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    Or eyebrows probably lol

    Cheers, i will try a single flare and jubilees and new rubber fuel pipe (more flexible).
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    Re: Securing copper fuel pipe to rubber hose

    Any DIY store will sell olives for 8 or 10mm pipe just get hold of thees and solider them on :thumb:
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