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Old 23-04-07, 10:17 PM
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New Clutch Slave problem

Went to the car tonight with the intention of bleeding my new clutch slave and adjusting it to suit...

i'm facing some new problems:

the cable that goes from master cylinder to slave is not very easy to manouver and attach to my clutch slave inlety thing.

When i did manage to catch a thread i realised the brass fitting on the clutch slave wasn't tight enough, (at its tightest position it faces towards the bellhousing meaning i can't get access) I could sort this by putting PTFE tape on the thread so it faces outward but i don't know the effect of brake fluid on PTFE.

The bolt (with a hole down the centre) used to connect the clutch hydralic cable to the slave cylinder uses copper washers to create a seal and allow the fluid not to leak... However, i can't get a tight seal because the bolt seems to be too long to fit into the 90 degree bend and the washers therefore don't create the seal. Wondered if it would be possible to put the bolt with copper washers directly into the clutch slave (which would solve my 90deg bend prob too)

Help please i'm stuck again

Heres a pic of the clutch slave cylinder i'm using again. The bottom brass fitting is the 90deg bend i'm on about
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Old 23-04-07, 11:33 PM
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Hi Sparticus,
Here we are again, I hope that we can help you.

You mention two options, one is using Teflon(R)
Teflon is possible to use with Brake Fluid, it will resit with out problems.
All the flexible brake lines (braided type) have the inner core from Teflon.
But be aware from the next:
If you apply Teflon don't put tape close to the start thread, that it can goes inside the hole.
You can never turn back a thread that is sealed with Teflon, if you do that you loose the sealing. So it should go at once to the final position.

Second you talk, if I understand it correct about a Banjo bolt.
This would be the cleanest solution.
Remove the brass fitting and change for one that has the Banjo setup.
For that you need to go to a brake shop, because they would have the special fitting.
Probably your actual brass fitting has a thread of 3/8"-24 but you need to check.

I hope this help.
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Old 23-04-07, 11:43 PM
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Can you not remove it and get a flexible pipe that screws directly into the slave cylinder and joint it to the copper pipe on the chassis, you don't want a copper pipe directly screwed into to the cylinder as it will flex with the engine and will eventually break
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Old 23-04-07, 11:52 PM
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sounds like you need a banjo fitting,like this??

If so call Faye at speedflow and she will sell you one.
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Old 24-04-07, 01:29 AM
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YES! I have the banjo bolt you're on about.... from looking at your setup Clarkson and it looks like i could take off the existing 90deg bend on the cylinder and attach the banjo bolt directly. Possible?
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Old 24-04-07, 11:04 AM
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Hi,
The setup that you see at Clarkson picture uses a "Repower" slave cylinder.
This cylinder has a flat surface where a banjo bolt can be sealed with a copper or aluminum ring.
Yours doesn't have that flat sureface, so it will not work.
The banjo that I was mention has a different shape.
Check the picture, the first part need to be sealed with Loctite (R) blue, the top section would be the banjo system.

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You also can try to use an standard elbow, one side should fit the slave cylinder and the other side will connect to the -AN fitting of your hose.

I hope this help.
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Old 24-04-07, 03:20 PM
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Yes I can see the pics,but I must be missing something here?? Why can't use use the brass fitting you have fitted and use a straight male fitting on your clutch pipe??

Speak to speedflow they will have an answer.
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YES! I have the banjo bolt you're on about.... from looking at your setup Clarkson and it looks like i could take off the existing 90deg bend on the cylinder and attach the banjo bolt directly. Possible?
Can you take the slave cylinder off and the fitting off, and post up a pic of it??

Sounds like all you have to do is change the pipe fitting from banjo to male which is very easy.
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Old 24-04-07, 04:22 PM
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Yes I can see the pics,but I must be missing something here?? Why can't use use the brass fitting you have fitted and use a straight male fitting on your clutch pipe??

Speak to speedflow they will have an answer.
Yes you miss the first post, he say the the brass fitting when is at the closed situation it points the rear of the cylinder, so any attachment to it, would be not possible because of the bell housing flange.
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Old 24-04-07, 07:08 PM
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its also a pig to get in to tighten the brass 90degree bend or attach anything to it. So far my best option is (bearing in mind my clutch setup is american)...

1/8npt male to male connector (going directly into the clutch slave)

1/8npt female to 3/8 UNF female connector and then bolt my banjo fitting on

(this way i can always tighten it with a socket easy because i've got more access)

Just wondering if a 1/8npt-3/8unf female connector exists or would i have to fabricate one.
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