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Old 20-05-08, 06:32 PM
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Sva receipts question

I bought the rolling chassis last July, and obviously the receipts are in that chaps name to the stage of the build.

My question is what difficulties may arise when the sva forms are sent off and some receipts are in different names?

I have totally stripped and rebuilt what was done anyway over the months but it is not in black and white.

Perhaps i am looking too much into this but it is good to be prepared.
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Couple of thoughts re your questions...
Do you have a bill of sale or a receipt that shows you purchased the car rolling chssis, if so just put that with the original reciept.
Secondly if you stripped it and rebuilt it did you take lots of photos of the work in progress as these are now required at SVA ????
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SVA Receipts

I am guessing that the guy who sold you the chassis didn't write you out a receipt? I would suggest that maybe you could generate a receipt for this purchase.

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Couple of thoughts re your questions...
Do you have a bill of sale or a receipt that shows you purchased the car rolling chssis, if so just put that with the original reciept.
Secondly if you stripped it and rebuilt it did you take lots of photos of the work in progress as these are now required at SVA ????
I wasn't asked for any photos at the SVA test centre, the only photos requested were by Swansea on the initial application. I also sent copies of the receipts for the chassis, body, wheels & the paint job. They seemed happy enough.

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Interesting question I will be in the same situation and don't have a receipt for the sale of the rolling chassis. I do have pictures of it being collected and bits being checked/cleaned/replaced which I was hoping would be sufficient.

At the end of the day the car has not been professionally built and at worst I'll get a Q plate.

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Just received my SVA forms & option 4 of vehicle build is.

The vehicle was partially built by an individual for his/her own use & i purchased the vehicle in a partly completed condition.

Hope this helps, Tony.
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Just received my SVA forms & option 4 of vehicle build is.

The vehicle was partially built by an individual for his/her own use & i purchased the vehicle in a partly completed condition.

Hope this helps, Tony.
But what does this mean? is it ok to have shared receipts?

I have no purchase receipt as it was a private sale, and the only photos are from the build from when I got it.
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I have also been thinking about this, so a while ago i emailled VOSA, this is the reply i got, the guy who replied seems ok, may be you could contact him and ask directly.



Your enquiry has been passed to me due to its technical nature. This has
caused a delay in you receiving a reply, for which I apologise. Your
question is more involved than you might think, but I shall try to answer
all the points raised to enable you to make an informed decision on the
application process for SVA.

VOSA are an Executive Agency of the Department for Transport which is
the Government Department responsible for all forms of Transport in Great
Britain. All SVA tests must be carried out by the "Competent Authority"
which in European terms means the authority delegated to fulfil the
function by central government. VOSA are the "Competent Authority" for SVA
testing in Great Britain and therefore only VOSA staff can be permitted to
carry out SVA testing.

The Department for Transport set up the Great Britain Single Vehicle
Approval scheme when European Type Approval regulations became mandatory
for cars and light commercial vehicles in the European Union. The objective
was to provide an alternative scheme to Type Approval for vehicles produced
in low numbers or where Type Approval was not a viable option.

With regard to your concerns, please allow me to firstly explain the exact
regulations regarding this matter and then I shall elaborate as to how
they may affect you. I will stress, that there has not been a change in the
regulations, but that we have been forced to check applications more
thoroughly due to an increase in untrue information being provided.

I have copied below, the section of the Regulations that define an amateur
built vehicle. The information is taken from The Motor Vehicles (Approval)
Regulations 2001 which is the legal document the SVA 1 application form is
drawn from. The details are taken from page 12, paragraph 3.

1) A vehicle is an amateur built vehicle if-
a) the vehicle was constructed or assembled for the personal use of a
relevant individual; and
b) the construction or assembly or a substantial part of the
construction
or assembly was carried out by-
i) the individual referred to in paragraph (a),
ii) one or more relevant individuals acting on his behalf
and under his direction, or
iii) the individual referred to in paragraph (a) and one or more
relevant individuals acting on his behalf and under his direction.
2) For the purposes of this paragraph, a reference to a relevant
individual, in relation to a motor vehicle, is a reference to an individual
who did not, at any time during the period when the construction or
assembly of the vehicle was being carried out, carry on a business in the
course of which motor vehicles are normally constructed or assembled.

The main purpose of the Amateur Built category is to allow members of the
public a less onerous vehicle test, which exempts them from the Enhanced
SVA test. It should not be forgotten, that this is an exemption from
regulation and as such will require proof of entitlement.

Unfortunately, it has now become very clear, that some applications have
been made, using untrue information. This has enabled the applicant to
obtain a SVA test when it is clear that the applicant did not meet this
exemption. VOSA has now been forced to act, in order to stop this practice.
VOSA will now insist, that where an application is received for a vehicle
to be tested as an Amateur Built vehicle, that the information provided on
the application form (SVA 1) is both factual and accurate. To support this,
applicants may be asked to provide documentary evidence that shows they
have built the vehicle themselves. This may take the form of photographs,
invoices, build diaries or multimedia presentations (or a combination of
each) that clearly show the construction of the vehicle by the applicant
(if appropriate).

I appreciate that for some customers, who have nearly completed the
construction of their vehicles, that this may seem like an unnecessary
hindrance. However, I can only reiterate the point, that had some customers
not chosen to misrepresent vehicles to VOSA in the first place, this
situation would not have arisen. Please be assured that I am more than
willing to discuss this matter with any customer who needs guidance on
documentary evidence and I am happy to field all relevant questions you may
have regarding the application process.

Please, let me finally assure you that VOSA is not trying to hinder Kit Car
builders with this issue. We are keen to maintain a good working
relationship with all members of the Kit Car Community. But, when a clear
challenge is made to the integrity of the application process, I am sure
you will agree, that we have to be seen to take robust action to ensure
that this matter is dealt with. Ultimately, should this issue continue to
cause problems, the whole application process will be scrutinised, with a
view to removing any applications that appear not to meet the guidelines.

I do hope that this information helps, but should you have any further
questions, please do feel free to get in touch.

Best regards,

Mark

Mark Vickers
Technical Officer
Single Vehicle Approval
Passenger Cars & Light Goods Vehicles
Vehicle & Operator Services Agency
Department for Transport.


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1) A vehicle is an amateur built vehicle if-
a) the vehicle was constructed or assembled for the personal use of a
relevant individual; and
b) the construction or assembly or a substantial part of the
construction
or assembly was carried out by-


So for someone who has a part build the word substantial is significant. From my point of view finishing off a rolling chassis is a subsantial part. Therefore showing pictures and bills of this phase should be enough for SVA - I hope

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1) A vehicle is an amateur built vehicle if-
a) the vehicle was constructed or assembled for the personal use of a
relevant individual; and
b) the construction or assembly or a substantial part of the
construction
or assembly was carried out by-


So for someone who has a part build the word substantial is significant. From my point of view finishing off a rolling chassis is a subsantial part. Therefore showing pictures and bills of this phase should be enough for SVA - I hope

Andi.
Thanks Andi I hope you are right, all that was in the chassis was the engine and box plus diff etc, on the slave wheels.

Everything else I have done so I guess that qualifies substantial.
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