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    So .. only 15 years left to finish your cars, builders!

    2035, no more petrol or hybrid cars, we'll all be plugged into the grid to charge our electric vehicles (assuming we've built a couple of dozen new nuclear power plants, or we'll all be working from home?).

    Will I finish? Won't I? Who can tell!
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    No problem.
    I plan to be dead then.
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    2035 is not going to happen. The whole idea is going out for consultation. Yes it will happen eventually but who cares not me, cobs on the road and I'd be 77 by then. If I'm still here.

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    Il be retiring at 51 then. It’s not all bad

    Personally I can’t see it happening in that time given the lack of resources and investment at present

    I guess if there is enough demand an electric platform for a Cobra could be done. having already briefly looked into it there are various options with varying degrees of expense

    I think as things progress the required components could be sourced no differently to the donor parts used in the current kit platforms now.

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    I can't imagine anyone wanting an electric Cobra, GT40. DBR recreation or a Caterham, TVR etc. So that'll be the end for the kit car and small volume market, people like Dave Brooks who produce such a fantastic product, sorry says Gove we don't need you or your skills anymore.

    Who would want a silent character less Ferrari or Lambo etc. Has anyone tried watching the supposed electric F1 future replacement.

    I suppose as long as we please Greta Thunderbird and ER and the tree hugging greens we will all go to heaven yippee.

    Baz

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    As with everything in time only the wealthy can afford it. Petrol will still be available in the future, but may be £5 a litre? 80% probably being tax.

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    15 years to design, plan and implement an electricity infrastructure to run 32.5 million (I googled it) cars? Not a snowballs chance in hell. We can't even keep up with the needs of heating and lighting of what we already have, and they keep saying there aren't enough houses! The only way to supply that much "green" electricity with today's technology is nuclear, the public enquiry would take 15+ years on it's own. And who is going to pay for the roads when "everyone" has tax free motoring, that's going to be the first thing to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatwick Axe Man View Post
    15 years to design, plan and implement an electricity infrastructure to run 32.5 million (I googled it) cars? Not a snowballs chance in hell. We can't even keep up with the needs of heating and lighting of what we already have, and they keep saying there aren't enough houses! The only way to supply that much "green" electricity with today's technology is nuclear, the public enquiry would take 15+ years on it's own. And who is going to pay for the roads when "everyone" has tax free motoring, that's going to be the first thing to go.
    At my age, I can just remember the days when road tax actually went on mending roads !

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    Quote Originally Posted by philbrad73 View Post
    As with everything in time only the wealthy can afford it. Petrol will still be available in the future, but may be £5 a litre? 80% probably being tax.
    I think this is very likely.
    There will be a tipping point in just a few years when electric car prices come down and become truly competitive with IC-powered cars - as with all new technologies the uptake curve is well established, and new technology just has to demonstrate capability at the right price point.
    This will stimulate runaway demand, as happened with smart phone adoption, home internet etc.

    Given the vast majority of cars are used on short (<100 mole) trips, it will just be a few years before range anxiety is abated.
    For longer journeys, I'd expect induction loop charging at motorway services built into half the car parking spaces. 20-30 min charging times, maybe even bookable via an app, and car ready to go after you've stopped for a piss, a coffee and a cake.
    I think car ownership in major cities will continue to fall, especially once Uber and others can start offering driver-less cars around major cities that can be ordered on-line. Unfortunately cities geneate income and thats where national policy gets baked in. If you live in the country (like me)...probably be a bit shit - red diesel black market?

    Most other charging issues can be dealt with at home. As another member on here said a few years ago, there is a lot of untapped generation capacity n the grid already by ramping up economy-7 type options - huge amounts of power available at night when we are asleep, and currently wasted.

    Granted, this will not serve the needs of industry, especially haulage, so I'd expect some dispensations to keep the economy afloat....or perhaps HS2 will address that as well

    I am not a particular fan of electric vehicles, but I think this is where we are heading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronjb View Post
    2035, no more petrol or hybrid cars, we'll all be plugged into the grid to charge our electric vehicles (assuming we've built a couple of dozen new nuclear power plants, or we'll all be working from home?).

    Will I finish? Won't I? Who can tell!
    Hummmmmmmmmmmmm, you best get out in the garage this weekend then

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