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    Steering Rack Identification

    Please can anyone identify my steering rack. I assume Jaguar XJ6.

    The car is currently being fettled and my engineer is suggesting the axle joints are knackered and could do with replacing - he has obviously asked me what the rack is off but I don't have the details in my records.

    It was allegedly built with new parts back in 2010 but clearly the rack was either used or refurbished if the joints are now knackered.

    Photos attached - if anyone could identify and confirm and also suggest where to source replacement that would be hugely appreciated. There are lots of Jag ones on eBay but don't want to purchase until confirmed.

    Thanks in advance.

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    It looks like the standard Dax rack as fitted up until the introduction of the new Quaife rack. Which joints need replacing? If it's the track rod ends (see here) then I have a brand new unused pair in my spares kit, which as I've sold my Dax are now surplus to requirements. Yours for £50 plus postage if you're interested. If it's the UJs as fitted to the intermediate shaft that need replacing, I'm pretty sure I also have an unused spare pair of those in the loft somewhere!
    Alan

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    Hi David,

    You have the same rack as on my Dax 1993 build with Triumph steering column pre- Ford with a Triumph steering rack. I believe the rack is Triumph Dolomite with the internals narrowed by Dax. What usually goes are the plastic cups on the end of the ball joints which you can replace. The tie rods are standard are Jag XJS/XJ6 -74-92 if you have play in the ball joints.

    The part no for the internal replacement cups Original part no. was 120955, superseded by part no 158732. You can fined these at various suppliers and on Fleabay or

    https://www.viamoto.co.uk/proddetail...up+Kit&cat=490

    The rack ends will need to be dismantled and should not be a very tight the rods when putting the ball joints together. If they are sloppy the you need to add shims.

    Either 2 thou 130031

    https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-130031

    or 10 thou shims

    https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-130032


    I finally found the problem was a worn U/J steering column to the rack. Bought from Car builder Solutions. I went with the Escort gp4 upgraded chrome steel and not press steel .

    https://www.carbuilder.com/uk/chrome...niversal-joint


    Thanks Jon
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    Thanks Alan & Jon.

    I will share the info and come back to Alan if they parts are the track rod ends or the UJ's - many thanks for the offer.

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    Hi Guys - had some more details/photos from my engineer.

    He has sent me these photos as the offending joint that needs replacing.

    Not sure if anyone has one of these knocking around or can confirm the precise part I need to find?

    Thanks again.

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    Is the play in the inner tie rod and not the ball joint?

    You should have a cup which the inner tie rod ball sits in. Is the cup metal or plastic. The Triumph dolomite locking nut is usually nex and yours is round which is confusing.

    Attached is a Triumph part. The MGB have round locking nuts bit confusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1d View Post
    Is the play in the inner tie rod and not the ball joint?

    You should have a cup which the inner tie rod ball sits in. Is the cup metal or plastic. The Triumph dolomite locking nut is usually nex and yours is round which is confusing.

    Attached is a Triumph part. The MGB have round locking nuts bit confusing.
    Funny you mention MGB. I am 90% certain my Dax has an MGB rack which would tie in with what you say. Could yours be as mine David, MGB rack with dolomite column?
    Moss in Bristol might be worth a look. Have got bits from them previously

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    Thanks - The suggestion is that the play is in the inner tie rod joint and not the tie rod end/ball joint so I am hoping they are the Jaguar parts as suggested by Jon and ordered a couple off Fleabay.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JLM1097-J...D/174176630657

    They will be going straight to the garage so they should be able to tell upon receipt if they are not correct. I will keep you informed.

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    Distinctive feature of the MGB rack is the long input shaft. The Ram uses a shortened one and it is still about a foot long.
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    David,
    The ball joint tie rod ends are Jag and the complete rack and inner ties are all Triumph Dolomite but internals are shortened which shortens the over all width of the rack. I think I confused things in my first post apologies.

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