Sh*t, S**t, S*it. Hope This Not True.

[Dutch Paul]

Originally Posted by Impulsebooks

I'm not saying this is gospel, but one of the changes I heard about was mandatory crash testing for all new vehicles. How many kit manufacturers have the know how or money for that?

Our leader has tested his twice - so GD should be covered now.

[dingocooke]

oh my youre gonna get sooo banned for that...again...

[Dutch Paul]

Originally Posted by dingocooke

oh my youre gonna get sooo banned for that...again...

OOPS - again

[Daxman]

Hi Guys,

I think i'm being a bit thick here! But i'll ask anyway.

If i'm not able to get my car finished by march 2009, (tested and registered) i will never be able to use it on public roads!. If that is the case, are these ****ing ****ers in the government going to compensate us for the thousands of pouds we have put in to the build of these cars.

A not very happy man

Russ

[dave.n]

Originally Posted by dingocooke

oh my youre gonna get sooo banned for that...again...

Yeah
But it made me laugh out loud

[dingocooke]

Originally Posted by Impulsebooks

I'm not saying this is gospel, but one of the changes I heard about was mandatory crash testing for all new vehicles. How many kit manufacturers have the know how or money for that?

Not what I'd heard, and clearly not feasable for a single vehicle test.

The changes are also meant to cover a different approach to vehicles that have been restored, and the procedure for getting an age related plate for a vehicle built up from parts looks under threat as well, so expect to see more 'Q' plates. More EC meddling yes, and it also shows what happens when too many people abuse the system.

[dingocooke]

Originally Posted by Daxman

Hi Guys,

I think i'm being a bit thick here! But i'll ask anyway.

If i'm not able to get my car finished by march 2009, (tested and registered) i will never be able to use it on public roads!. If that is the case, are these ****ing ****ers in the government going to compensate us for the thousands of pouds we have put in to the build of these cars.

A not very happy man

Russ

Not true, as it stands, unless the government does a U turn after succesful lobbying by any interested parties, and goes for an opt out clause you will 'just' have a much more stringent test to comply with, and there is a good chance that at a later date we will all have a more stringent 2 year test to replace the current MOT; its all under discussion now so I'd dab in and get it finshed to SVA level before next year.
Compensation? Not a chance, the pistol shooters, off roaders hunters, and pub landlords all got absolutley zero, and so will you.

[Impulsebooks]

Originally Posted by dingocooke

Not what I'd heard, and clearly not feasable for a single vehicle test.

The changes are also meant to cover a different approach to vehicles that have been restored, and the procedure for getting an age related plate for a vehicle built up from parts looks under threat as well, so expect to see more 'Q' plates. More EC meddling yes, and it also shows what happens when too many people abuse the system.

It wouldn't be a single vehicle test like SVA. As far as I understand it, it would mean kit companies like Dax, and kit building companied like Db would have to get safety certification. I really can't see Dave sacrificing one of his beuties for a crash test to get such a ticket, but <shrug>

As I said, I hate the idea and don't have a source I can point to, but I did read about such testing was in the planning stages.

[wilf]

We were so very lucky to get the SVA system here, when putting a car like a cobra replica on the road is virtually impossible in most of the rest of Europe.

The truth is that those who abused the "amateur build" status have given VOSA the excuse they needed to clamp down.

As ever, the innocent will suffer in the ensuing mess.

I suspect that whatever system eventually is adopted will be far more difficult to work with, but not impossible. You will end up employing the services of a consultant to get you through the legal minefield, just like we do when buying a house.

If you are building now, take plenty of pictures, get receipts for every part, and be able to prove you built it and that the parts came from your donor - that may, just may, help. All the idiots who posted here about "where can I get a V5 for my completed car" , or any other loophole etc. should hang their heads in shame. As Purple AK says, careless talk.................

[dingocooke]

Originally Posted by Impulsebooks

It wouldn't be a single vehicle test like SVA. As far as I understand it, it would mean kit companies like Dax, and kit building companied like Db would have to get safety certification. I really can't see Dave sacrificing one of his beuties for a crash test to get such a ticket, but <shrug>

As I said, I hate the idea and don't have a source I can point to, but I did read about such testing was in the planning stages.

From what Ive seen, it would be an IVA (individual vehicle approval) for amateur builders, and small quantity builders like DB would fall into a different category. It may be that the manufacturer will have to undergo crash testing (as I think GD have done for TUV?? The GD guys will probably confirm this) to prove their basic concept as a limited non series production vehicle? But certainly each amateur builder wont be doing that!

One thing is for sure, the government and VOSA are not going out of their way to consult with the publc on this, so unless we all start shouting (as I have already done to my MP) you can as Johnw says, get ready to 'suck the mop' once more.

As an additional bonus to all this good news, the rumour of restriction of old vehicle use keeps resurfacing (see Simons mostly ignored thread on this a few weeks back and the Number 10 petition), so dont just think its going to affect those still building, if you have a tax exempt older car or bike or whatever, you might be looking at some restrictive legislation coming your way as well.

As I see it, we can act now, or just moan about it when its too late.