SVA Replacement - IVA Details here.

[Andy302]

Gents,

As promised here are the details I have been sent by the DFT.

Here are the edited emails received.

Email 1

Andrew,
I attach the latest draft standards for kit cars under 'bespoke IVA' which replaces the standard SVA scheme. It will be complicated to understand but the simplified version is not yet ready.

Email 2.

I attach a high-level comparison of SVA (and ESVA) versus BIVA (and IVA). I will see if we can produce a more detailed easy to use description of what is changing. I believe that the changes are not major. Some things are being checked that were not checked before (horn, mudguards/wheelguards, VIN plate), other items are revised.
VOSA will have the inspection manual ready later in the year (maybe August).

the timetable unfortunately is like a 'big bang' timetable, there is no phase-in period:
On 28th April the last SVA certificates will be issued, although we might in fact stop a few days early for training. On 29th April the IVA inspection will start. We will ask DVLA to continue to accept SVA certificates for a month or so afterwards to ensure that vehicles are not left 'orphaned' and unable to be registered despite having an SVA.

There will have to be a bit of a tail-off towards the end since we will need to leave free appointment slots for possible re-tests and staff will be absent being trained for IVA. Therefore my strong advice to SVA submitters is to avoid a vehicle being submitted in March-April 2009 - particularly in locations like Bristol and Southampton where there will be high demand from importers rushing to beat the deadline. Also avoid May 09 as there are sure to be teething problems with the new scheme. (Buit don't quote me on that!)
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So there you go, now you know as much as me. Looking through the change points I dont know if theres anything thats a deal breaker, I would appreciate it if others could look and check also.

Maybe someone with good experience of building cars and putting them through SVA......

Ive put the files in as a zip archive as we cant upload a word doc bigger than two words or an excel file at all!

Hope these help.

The guy who has helped at the DFT is keen for feed back so if we can somehow get a sticky on this Rob so I can feedback to him with peoples comments then I will.

Cheers

[Daxman]

Hi All,

I have also recieved the following from VOSA.

Good afternoon,

Your enquiry has been passed to me due to its technical nature. This has
caused a delay in you receiving a reply, for which I apologise. Your
question is more involved than you might think, but I shall try to answer
all the points raised to enable you to make an informed decision on the
changes to the regulations in 2009.

The information on the stated web site has a foundation, but there is a lot
of false information being put about by people with a poor understanding of
what is actually happening. Basically, SVA will cease in May 2009 and be
replaced by Individual Vehicle Approval (IVA). This is in line with the
introduction of European Whole Vehicle Type Approval (ECWVTA) in 2009. This
is European legislation that we have to implement.

Currently we do not know what actual effect this will have on Kit Cars, as
the exact regulations are currently being formulated. But, currently, there
are no plans to stop Kit Car testing. However, it is fair to say that there
will be changes to the current SVA requirements and additional elements to
the test.

I have attached a link to the Department of Transport web site which deals
with the change in legislation coming in to effect in 2009. I have also
attached the Directive document which you may like to read as well.

Department for Transport - EC Whole Vehicle Type Approval

(See attached file: Recast Framework Directive.pdf)

I do hope this information is helpful, but should you have any further
questions, please do not hesitate to get in touch.

Best regards,

Mark

Mark Vickers
Technical Officer
Single Vehicle Approval
Passenger Cars & Light Goods Vehicles
Vehicle & Operator Services Agency
Department for Transport.

He also attached the european directive

Russ

[Noel]

Very good efforts?

All seems roughly the same as is now, Sect 40 looks interesting:

An engine power and maximum power speed shall be determined for each vehicle.

Will we get a free dyno test??

and Sect 15. Seat strength ....... I would have to rip out 8 sideways facing seats in my LWB Military Landrover to get it through

Hopefully a storm in a teacup for all those to yet pass a test

[kayjayd]

Doesn't seem any great issues to me. However, I'm pleased I don't have to worry about it personally but looking at those files it isn't much different to SVA and could've been a whole lot worse.

[wilf]

So now you have to fit a horn.......always was a stupid omission.

And also, it appears you will need a manufacturers declaration of engine power and the rpms at which it is developed - closing a loophole I suspect.

We need to comb through this in fine detail- the main trouble I see is the multiple references to EU standards, not sure how we are going to get to or be able to plough through, those.

Main encouragement is that someone at least has indicated that amateur built kit cars are seen as "continuing". Of course, we are used to Civil Servants contradicting themselves................

Andy - well dug out.

[Andy302]

Thanks Wilf, out of necessity really! Not sure what the split is on this site but Im sure a lot of us out have been a bit stressed these last couple of days.

Thats why I got a bit annoyed when Pats original post turned into who did what with the paperwork argument. Entertaining for those with legal cars, not much help to those with piles of bits!

Im not sure how to track down the relevant directives, Ill look into that and see if I can get up a library!

Gives me something to do while I save up for a gearbox!

Cheers

[wilf]

The old SVA manual didn't quote all these EC directives, so I suspect this is mainly "harmonisation". Lets hope that they don't expect us to get into all of those directives (which are aimed at mass producers of cars), but give us an easy reference manual, which is what the old one was.

[Andy302]

Yes I noticed that about the SVA document draft I have. Anyway found the directives!

Enterprise - Automotive Industry - List of Directives on Motor vehicles

A little light reading!

I would imagine for the testers to be able to do their job things will have to be fairly easy to understand. Also as it appears they intend to stop SVA on the 28th and start IVA on the 29th with possibly only 2 days training, therefore I cant think its going to be massive changes.

[v8pete]

Nice work Andy!!

Hmm... I think this is going to be fun though ; take this for example :

10.
Electro-magnetic Compati-bility
The vehicle shall comply with the requirements of paragraph 6.1 of Annex 1 to Directive 72/245/EEC as amended by Directive 89/491/EEC, or of paragraph 6.1 of ECE Regulation 10.01.


So... as most GRP Cobra replicas don't come with an EMC compliance certificate, I can probably fix you all up with the use of an EMC chamber & RF spectrum analyser or two !- I dont think we've ever tried to drive a car into it though

Pete.

Seriously though, as Wilf implies, the big hassle is going to be finding out/interperting/arguing over all these damned EU paragraph references!

[oiler0]

just seams just a load of old
boolocks to me
just like the old test was

but that's progress i guess !