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Old 01-09-05, 11:06 PM
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Re: Fuel pump location.

update to plan of attack

Plan C is

Tank with 2 low outlets, through 2 isolation valves then 2 filters.
Pipes exiting through boot floor to metal box below.
within box, swirl pot / small tank with the 2 feeds (filters mounted here) in the upper part of pot.
fuel pump mounted in the box with pick up from low down on pot.
fuel return next to it.
all enclosed and shielded from the exhausts by the box and deflectors.

Theory works, description doesn't!! implementation pain in the butt.





If a jobs worth doing, its worth redesigning 28 times and throwing the rest out, then realising that attempt 3 was the same as 17 and worked infinitely better than the cr@p you end up with.

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Old 02-09-05, 08:54 AM
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Re: Fuel pump location.

The isolator valves sound like an excellent idea How much easier it would have been last weekend when we managed to nick the fuel line 1/2" from the tank while changing Andy's diff
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Old 02-09-05, 09:19 AM
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Re: Fuel pump location.

Was there not a post on this many moons ago and Chester AK (Stan) made some points re injection motors & return fuel feed with others . From what I can remember if the return fuel does not enter the tank in the proper fashion it can cause static electricity!!!!! Or am I talking a load of old pants here? Osgood.
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Old 02-09-05, 11:08 AM
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Re: Fuel pump location.

Hi Dean
I was thinking of mounting our pump in the sloping bit (just in front of the flat boot space). That way it is not far from the outlet of the tank (not purchased yet). The ford system comes with a metal cylindrical canister, to which i presume is a swirl pot. The ford fuel filter is a huge round thing, can i use one of those plastic 2" round ones (costing a mere few quid), or will that not be up to the job on a fuel injected system?
Sounds like you are making good progress Dean.
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Old 02-09-05, 11:46 AM
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Re: Fuel pump location.

Kev

The only comment I would make is to ensure you know the pressure rating of the filter housing.

First one I got was destined for the pressurised side but was rated at 10 psi...... Luckily I spotted that. Could have been fun..

Then I thought filter it before the pump at minimal pressure. Coupled with the twin feed to minimise losses from slosh (tech term??) then I have a pile of poo that will inevitably be ripped out at some point, unless by some miracle it works....(and i can speel!).

Either way me thinks the tank is going to be replaced with something a bit bigger. there is plenty of space to enlarge. Don't fancy trusting my welding abilities to that so I may actually buy something... First time for everything Although I am confident this can be done at any time, ish.

Firm believer in the isolation at every oportunity from my track record of soaking myself with filters and pump replacements. the oil system is the worst but the filter is not the lowest point now so i should not get too soaked again. yeuuch stinks to high heaven for a few days.
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Was there not a post on this many moons ago and Chester AK (Stan) made some points re injection motors & return fuel feed with others . From what I can remember if the return fuel does not enter the tank in the proper fashion it can cause static electricity!!!!! Or am I talking a load of old pants here? Osgood.
Fair comment

Will be cross bonding all metal bits together then.

May need one heck of an earth lead to reach the spike in the ground though..............

Shouldn't jest really. Someone I know wired up a VW camper and asked where he should place the earth spike. It didn't dawn on him that the van needed to move!!!!!!

Mind you he also used to practice canoeing in the back garden with a lead lamp clipped to the paddle, and also dig the veg patch at midnight with the lead lamp on the fork. Guess how many times that lead got replaced?
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Fair comment

Will be cross bonding all metal bits together then.

May need one heck of an earth lead to reach the spike in the ground though..............

Shouldn't jest really. Someone I know wired up a VW camper and asked where he should place the earth spike. It didn't dawn on him that the van needed to move!!!!!!

Mind you he also used to practice canoeing in the back garden with a lead lamp clipped to the paddle, and also dig the veg patch at midnight with the lead lamp on the fork. Guess how many times that lead got replaced?
Steamy you have some strange mates me thinks But VW camper says it all As a point of interest I have 4 earths too the chassis on my car 2 from the tank and two from the filer necks, I suppose if you wanted to be doubly sure you could dangle one of those static strips down to-wards the road surface Osgood
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I suppose if you wanted to be doubly sure you could dangle one of those static strips down to-wards the road surface Osgood
Isn't that what i have underslungs for????


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Re: Fuel pump location.

I believe the return pipe has to have a small hole in it, just inside the tank, but before the end. Technically why, I know not. But someone will enlighten I'm sure
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Re: Fuel pump location.

Purely by coincidence the bit I used within the swirl pot has 2 small holes just inside.

Probably not much cop mind you as it will all be submersed anyway.

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