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Old 19-03-08, 01:17 PM
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Viper Engine Mounts

Hi Guys

I know theres a few of you out there who have Vipers with Rover V8's installed. Can I ask you what engine brackets you're using? The set that came with my car are junk (Badly cut about, dont fit and rely on the engine mounts being fitted the wrong way!). See the following link for snapshots:

RV8 Engine Brackets

I have bought a set of SD1 brackets but I am concerned about fouling the steering column - any help you guys could provide would be gratefully received as I'm becoming concerned about this!

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Craig.

P.s Some holiday this is turning out to be!
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Old 19-03-08, 02:51 PM
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Hi Ceejay
Dean (SteamyRotter) is your best bet. I am sure as 1 am approaches he will be online.
I would have thought you'd need stiffer mounts to compensate for that big arsed blower
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Old 19-03-08, 03:20 PM
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Hi Guys

I know theres a few of you out there who have Vipers with Rover V8's installed. Can I ask you what engine brackets you're using? The set that came with my car are junk (Badly cut about, don't fit and rely on the engine mounts being fitted the wrong way!). See the following link for snapshots:

RV8 Engine Brackets

I have bought a set of SD1 brackets but I am concerned about fouling the steering column - any help you guys could provide would be gratefully received as I'm becoming concerned about this!

Regards
Craig.

P.s Some holiday this is turning out to be!
Craig, use TR8 metal bracket (to engine block) available from Rimmer Brothers Linc's, SD1 standard rubber mounts, also availible from Rimmers and make your own brackets to bolt to rubber mounts and weld to chassis. As far as I am aware none of the Viper range were ever supplied with engine mounts with the kit. I have no idea what those brackets you have are for but you could use the metal. The object of using what I have described you can get the engine sitting pretty low in the frame.

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Old 19-03-08, 08:45 PM
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I would have thought you'd need stiffer mounts to compensate for that big arsed blower
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You're just jealous cause you've only got a weedy v6... ;>
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Old 19-03-08, 08:47 PM
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Craig, use TR8 metal bracket (to engine block) available from Rimmer Brothers Linc's, SD1 standard rubber mounts, also availible from Rimmers and make your own brackets to bolt to rubber mounts and weld to chassis. As far as I am aware none of the Viper range were ever supplied with engine mounts with the kit. I have no idea what those brackets you have are for but you could use the metal. The object of using what I have described you can get the engine sitting pretty low in the frame.

Hope this helps
Thanks Delage - I had'nt thought of the TR8 route. I've already bought the SD1 Brackets but I could always stick them on eBay. Do you have any pics of said bracket and is it less bulky than the SD1 Bracket?

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Hi Ceej.

Sorry for not picking up on this earlier.....
(I am slacking Kev!!)

Modified 1986 RR mounts used upside down as per photos attached
(will admit to only having one supplied with the engine and my mate (Again) made the mirror image for the other side.

Note that these were designed for not a lot of movement as I had to drop the engine sufficiently to clear the bonnet but high enough to miss the front cross member!! when running there was minimal vibration through the chassis, but nothing to worry about.
This is my interpretation of mounting system and i do not claim it to be correct or suitable for all installs........

However it took a long time to sort it!!!
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Old 20-03-08, 10:28 AM
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Craig picture attached, you can see how tight it hugs the block, rubber mount bolts onto the flat plate then two small brackets need to be made up with two holes in to take the rubber mount and welded to chassis if you have the Jag chassis they work out the right width for the chassis.

The SD1 metal brackets are to long and need to be cut down, but even then the engine sits a little high. Steamy's idea is okay & strong but I will think you will find this method is a lot neater. Best of luck
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Old 20-03-08, 12:03 PM
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Craig picture attached, you can see how tight it hugs the block, rubber mount bolts onto the flat plate then two small brackets need to be made up with two holes in to take the rubber mount and welded to chassis if you have the Jag chassis they work out the right width for the chassis.

The SD1 metal brackets are to long and need to be cut down, but even then the engine sits a little high. Steamy's idea is okay & strong but I will think you will find this method is a lot neater. Best of luck

Thanks Leo - I'm surprised how close to the block the TR8 Brackets are compared with the SD1's. Many thanks to all who replied and I will order up the TR8 Brackets this afternoon.

Anybody want to buy an unused set of SD1 Brackets? Just bought them from Dave Ellis for £30 - yours for £25 plus delivery!

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Old 25-03-08, 12:50 PM
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Leo, did you have to alter the TR8 Bracket at all to make it fit? I just received my TR8 Brackets from Rimmers this morning but when I offered them up to the engine only two of the three holes lined up - I'd have to alter the top part of the bracket if I want them to fit...

I'm beginning to hate this car...

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Leo, did you have to alter the TR8 Bracket at all to make it fit? I just received my TR8 Brackets from Rimmers this morning but when I offered them up to the engine only two of the three holes lined up - I'd have to alter the top part of the bracket if I want them to fit...

I'm beginning to hate this car...

CeeJay.
CJay, no I did not have to alter the bracket at all, but I do remember having to elongate one of the three holes in order to fit the three fixing bolts to the block, as you can see they are handed. Once you have fitted your engine mounts to the brackets lower the engine down and they will both line up nicely with the chassis rail, two small brakets are then required to me made up out of say 1"X2:5" angle (5mm thick) and shaped with two holes & welded to the chassis, I will have a look through my stuff and see if I can find a drawing for you.
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