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  1. #41
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    My thoughts exactly Jim:
    You chaps with replicas can keep them, but we are not allowing anyone to make copy of our old cars, now that the Land Rover part of our business is costing an arm and a leg to keep going because we make one the most unreliable cars ever built, so we decided to go back to basics - springs and flaps and ali bashing which is far more lucrative....provided we are the sole provider.

    ....perhaps I exaggerated a bit
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinW View Post
    ....perhaps I exaggerated a bit
    As a Range Rover owner I'd say you were pretty spot on..
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronjb View Post
    As a Range Rover owner I'd say you were pretty spot on..
    Oh! Yes!
    in the last 6 months on my Vogue SE, Full Fat.
    I have replaced the reversing camera ( managed to insert a £10 Ebay item into the original housing. (£100s saved)#
    I have replaced the sat nav antenna (managed to insert a £10 Ebay item into the original housing. (£100s saved)#
    Just finished fixing the drivers heated seat (new peltier unit installed from a guy in Russia via Ebay £70.) £200 saved over JLR prices.

    What next I wonder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kdavies3 View Post
    Oh! Yes!
    in the last 6 months on my Vogue SE, Full Fat.
    I have replaced the reversing camera ( managed to insert a £10 Ebay item into the original housing. (£100s saved)#
    I have replaced the sat nav antenna (managed to insert a £10 Ebay item into the original housing. (£100s saved)#
    Just finished fixing the drivers heated seat (new peltier unit installed from a guy in Russia via Ebay £70.) £200 saved over JLR prices.

    What next I wonder?
    A mate of mine bought a brand new Range Rover, cost him about £100k (owned by his business) First engine did 19000 before the crank seized. Second engine did 4000 before the crank seized! While waiting for his third engine (its a body off refit job) there were 8 other RR’s in the queue in front of him, all with seized engines which, as I understand it, is from one of the main bearings spinning and blocking off the oil flow.
    He was amazingly good natured about it. I think I would have got it going, called the BBC and driven it through the showroom window!
    Eventually he negotiated a deal for another car.
    As I understand it this problem is now fixed on the latest cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdavies3 View Post
    Oh! Yes!
    in the last 6 months on my Vogue SE, Full Fat.
    I have replaced the reversing camera ( managed to insert a £10 Ebay item into the original housing. (£100s saved)#
    I have replaced the sat nav antenna (managed to insert a £10 Ebay item into the original housing. (£100s saved)#
    Just finished fixing the drivers heated seat (new peltier unit installed from a guy in Russia via Ebay £70.) £200 saved over JLR prices.

    What next I wonder?
    Spontaneous combustion? The reversing camera is broken on mine too - it still works, the image is just back to front (left to right) which is really confusing! Common fault apparently - I have a spare camera to go in, if I ever summon the courage to take the spoiler off to get at it.

    At least my turbos work again

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisP View Post
    A mate of mine bought a brand new Range Rover, cost him about £100k (owned by his business) First engine did 19000 before the crank seized. Second engine did 4000 before the crank seized! While waiting for his third engine (its a body off refit job) there were 8 other RR’s in the queue in front of him, all with seized engines which, as I understand it, is from one of the main bearings spinning and blocking off the oil flow.
    He was amazingly good natured about it. I think I would have got it going, called the BBC and driven it through the showroom window!
    Eventually he negotiated a deal for another car.
    As I understand it this problem is now fixed on the latest cars.
    2.7 SDV6es of a certain era (basically all of them) are prone to snapping their crankshafts, which is a fun party trick! To the point that the owners forum recommends taking out a warranty (~£1500p/a!) "just in case [when] it happens"
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    I couldn't find my original source for my claim, but here's one that came up easily enough...
    https://www.motorbiscuit.com/land-ro...dependability/

    A mate of mine had a brother working at a dealership- exactly the same issue, and loads of LR fucked engines coming in either side of the warranty expiry.
    Sad for the owners on the wrong side of it.
    Me thinks JLR should be honest and admit the 'L' stands for 'Leyland'.....at least for reliability.
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    I think I must be unique. Have had a couple of Range Rovers with very few issues. However don't get me started on Fords! We have three leased through work, couple of Rangers and a Focus. What a bag of ...... they are electronically. Constantly drop into limp mode, power steering failures, hilariously unreliable sat navs. One was even putting the brakes on by itself amongst other entertaining issues! Never again.
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    I will admit, my RRS is ~12 years old now (10 years old when I bought it) and it hasn't really had anything other than things you'd likely expect on an older vehicle loaded with electronics; new battery, new alternator, one headlamp bulb died etc..

    I'd have another Ranger in a heartbeat though
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  9. #49
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    Just to get back on track, here is the defendants response to JLR's attempt to save face:

    'In contrast to the JLR PR attempt to save face see below as to the same set of events from the Magnissens view: 2021-02-11: Comments by the Magnusson family in response to the statement issued by Jaguar Land Rover
    In their statement, Jaguar Land Rover are deliberately misrepresenting both the actual circumstances of the case and their relationship with the replica community.
    Firstly, Jaguar Land Rover has gone after not only the company Creare, but the private citizens Karl and Ann-Christine Magnusson. Creare has never manufactured or sold a single C-Type replica. The only C-Type replica built was paid for, built, and owned by Karl Magnusson privately from start to finish, as public documentation from the Swedish registration process for amateur-built vehicles reflects.
    Karl Magnusson had an ambition to build another two replicas using the company Creare. These plans were openly shared in a 2016 meeting at Jaguar Land Rover Classic HQ where Karl had been invited to present his manufacturing data. Jaguar Land Rover had no objection to these plans - not in the meeting, nor in the correspondence that followed. On the contrary, Karl felt encouraged. When Jaguar Land Rover suddenly sent a warning letter in 2018, the privately-built C-Type replica was essentially completed. Any future plans for the two additional cars were immediately dropped.
    Secondly, Jaguar Land Rover has approved of, and benefited from, the replica community for decades, both from businesses and private citizens. There are more than 1 500 C-type replicas existing today. It is only now when JLR is launching their own continuation line, that they have started to pursue replica builders - some 70 years after the iconic design was created. The interpretation of JLR’s statement is clearly that all commercially made C-Type replicas are from now on illegal and risk destruction.
    Thirdly, as is well known, there has been no interest in maintaining or retaining any IP rights for the C-Type up until this recent shift in attitude. And while the Swedish lowest courts granted JLR these rights, such rights have not yet gained legal status as the case has been appealed. Jaguar enthusiasts worldwide are the ones who have been committed to the preservation and heritage of the brand and the classic iconic designs since the 1970s. It is thanks to this community that these icons are still desired. Jaguar Land Rover’s actions clearly show that their newly found business ambitions are worth turning against their most loyal supporters. Two of them, the Magnussons, now need to destroy their privately-built C-Type replica. The £450,000 in legal fees have to be met by these two older Jaguar enthusiasts from private funds.'
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    I can almost feel the gallic shrug coming off JLRs shoulders upon their rabid pool of lawyers being shown that response

    Speaking of JLR, I see they have announced that their entire line-up will be electric by 2025. Get your F-Type orders in now while you still can..
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